Army suspends Tuition Assistance program

[95ragtop]

yes.

[Downs]

Army only?

Marines also. I was checking out for my PCS move to California and was told it was cut. No one gave a shit. More people were upset about the new order for rolled down sleeves year round than about TA.

We're so hard up for money that we're having a hard time getting parts for our planes unless it's a hard downer. They're about to cut any and all training unless it's directly related to a deployment.

[gnturboray]

Disclaimer: I think that cutting tuition assistance is bullshit, but it's also the result of our inability to come to terms with meaningful cuts.

But they've gotta get out those WIC cards and Obama phones.

[thesource]

Everyone is for cuts until they realize its going to effect them.

[Forever_frost]

Really? You really think that's a statement I stand behind? I realize we don't all spend a lot of time following each other's musings all over this forum, but this one seems obvious.

Of course fucking defense needs assloads of cuts. But no one on here seems particularly willing to. And if they are they qualify it with "Well you have to cut WELFARE (note the ambiguity) before you can touch American's big dick, even if there is waste in the defense system."

It's like watching fucking 3rd graders negotiate.

Things that should be cut before a dime is cut from the military:

Department of Education: All of it. There are 50 state one and a federal one. Either do away with the federal one or the 50 state ones

Department of Energy: They produce zero engery

EPA: Bloated bureaucracy that has no constitutional authority to exist and was created by EO.

DHS: Redundant department. Disband the department, return all funding to treasury. Push security at airport requirements to the airports and the airlines themselves.

National Endowment for the Arts: If it's art, someone will buy it. You don't need tax dollars

National Wild Horse and Burro Program: I think this is self explainatory

FEMA: State issue
FDIC: State issue or have banks self fund
Freddy Mac & Fannie Mae: No constitutional authority to exist
Administration on Aging: REdundant
Administration for Children and Families (ACF): Redundant
Administration on Developmental Disabilities (ADD)
Administration for Native Americans (ANA)
Children's Bureau (CB)
Family and Youth Services Bureau (FYSB)
Head Start Bureau (HSB)
Healthy Marriage Initiative (HMI)
Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP)
Office of Child Support Enforcement (OCSE)
Office of Community Services Block Grant (OCS)
Office of Family Assistance (OFA)
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)
Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR)
President's Committee for People with Intellectual Disabilities (PCPID)
Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ)
Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR)
Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS)
Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA)
Indian Health Service (IHS)
National Institutes of Health (NIH)
Office for Civil Rights (OCR)
Office of Minority Health (OMH)
Program Support Center (PSC)
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Admin.(SAMHSA)
Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology (ONCHIT)
Center for Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (CFBCI)
Employees' Compensation Appeals Board (ECAB)
Employment Standards Administration (ESA)
The Office of Labor-Management Standards (OLMS)
Office of Workers' Compensation Programs (OWCP)
Wage and Hour Division (WHD)
Employment and Training Administration (ETA)
Employee Benefits Security Administration (EBSA)
Women's Bureau (WB)
Job Corps
Bureau of East Asian and Pacific Affairs
Bureau of Economic and Business Affairs
Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs
Internet Access and Training Program
Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs
Bureau of Human Resources
Bureau of Information Resource Management
Bureau of Intelligence and Research
Bureau for International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs
Bureau of International Organization Affairs
Bureau of International Security and Nonproliferation
Bureau of Legislative Affairs
Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs
Bureau of Oceans and International Environmental and Scientific Affairs
Bureau of Overseas Buildings Operations
Bureau of Political-Military Affairs
Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration
Bureau of Public Affairs
Bureau of Resource Management
Bureau of South Asian Affairs
Bureau of Verification, Compliance, and Implementation
Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs
Counterterrorism Office (which produces the Patterns of Global Terrorism report)
National Foreign Affairs Training Center (former Foreign Service Institute)
Office of International Information Programs
Office of the Legal Adviser
Office of Management Policy
Office of Protocol
Office of the Science and Technology Adviser
Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons
Office of War Crimes Issues (They blew the Bush war crimes)
Car Allowance Rebate System (Cash for Clunkers)
Cash for Appliances Program
Bureau of the Public Debt
Community Development Financial Institution Fund (CDFI)
FHA
HUD

INDEPENDENT AGENCIES Of the U.S. GOVERNMENT;
National health and insurance system
African Development Foundation
Advisory Council on Historic Preservation (ACHP)
Agency for International Development (USAID)
American Battle Monuments Commission (ABMC)
Appalachian Regional Commission (ARC)
U.S. Arctic Research Commission (USARC)
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) (EVIL WAR-MONGERS)
US Commission on Civil Rights (USCCR)
Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (CSCE)
Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS)
Court Services and Offender Supervision Agency (CSOSA)
Delaware River Basin Commission (DRBC)
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC)
Export-Import Bank of the United States (ExIm)
Farm Credit Administration (FCA)
Federal Communications Commission (FCC)
Federal Election Commission (FEC)
Federal Maritime Commission
Federal Mine Safety & Health Review Commission (FMSHRC)
Federal Reserve System (a pseudo government, semi-private organization)
Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board
Federal Trade Commission (FTC)
Foreign Claims Settlement Commission of the United States (FCSC)
General Services Administration (GSA)
Institute of Museum and Library Services (IMLS)
Inter-American Foundation (IAF)
International Trade Commission (ITC)
Learn and Serve America (LSA)
National Capital Planning Commission (NCPC)
National Credit Union Administration (NCUA)
National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH)
National Ice Center (NIC)
National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)
National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) (NRPC)
National Science Foundation (NSF)
National Transportation Research Center (NTRC)
Office of Government Ethics (OGE)(LOT OF GOOD THEY DO)
Office of Personnel Management (OPM)
Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC)
Selective Service System (SSS)
Senior Corps
Small Business Administration (SBA)
Susquehanna River Basin Commission (SRBC)
Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA)
United States Trade and Development Agency (TDA)


White House Commission on the National Moment of Remembrance

[Forever_frost]

BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS;
Financial crisis inquiry commission
Administrative Committee of the Federal Register
American Battle Monuments Commission
Appalachian Regional Commission
Architectural and Transportation Barriers Compliance Board (Access Board)
Arctic Research Commission
Arthritis and Musculoskeletal Interagency Coordinating Committee
Barry M. Goldwater Scholarship and Excellence in Education Foundation
Broadcasting Board of Governors
Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board
Chief Acquisition Officers Council
Chief Financial Officers Council
Chief Human Capital Officers Council
Chief Information Officers Council
Citizens' Stamp Advisory Committee
Commission of Fine Arts
Commission on International Religious Freedom
Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (Helsinki Commission)
Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States
Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction
Committee for Purchase from People Who Are Blind or Severely Disabled
Committee for the Implementation of Textile Agreements
Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States
Coordinating Council on Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention
Delaware River Basin Commission
Denali Commission
Endangered Species Committee
Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board
Federal Advisory Committees
Federal Executive Boards
Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council
Federal Financing Bank
Federal Geographic Data Committee
Federal Interagency Committee for the Management of Noxious and Exotic Weeds (GOTTA LOVE THAT ONE!)
Federal Interagency Committee on Education
Federal Interagency Council on Statistical Policy
Federal Laboratory Consortium for Technology Transfer
Federal Library and Information Center Committee
Harry S. Truman Scholarship Foundation
Illinois and Michigan Canal National Heritage Corridor Commission
Indian Arts and Crafts Board
Interagency Alternative Dispute Resolution Working Group
Interagency Council on Homelessness
Interstate Commission on the Potomac River Basin
J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board
James Madison Memorial Fellowship Foundation
Japan-United States Friendship Commission
Joint Board for the Enrollment of Actuaries
Joint Fire Science Program
Marine Mammal Commission
Migratory Bird Conservation Commission
Millennium Challenge Corporation
Mississippi River Commission
Morris K. Udall Foundation: Scholarship and Excellence in National Environmental Policy
National Bipartisan Commission on the Future of Medicare
National Indian Gaming Commission
National Park Foundation
Northwest Power Planning Council
Nuclear Regulatory Commission
Nuclear Waste Technical Review Board
Presidio Trust
Regulatory Information Service Center
Social Security Advisory Board
Susquehanna River Basin Commission
Taxpayer Advocacy Panel
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Veterans Day National Committee
Vietnam Educational Foundation
White House Commission on Presidential Scholars – "Presidential Scholars Program"





Cut all of those to the bone before you touch an actual constitutionally mandated obligation

[4eyedwillie]

All it says is we have to pay for a army. It doesn't say a damn thing about what gets paid for. Tuition program? Not in there. VA? Not in there. commissary/PX? Not in there. Nothing is in there except pay for a army which means wages, housing, and equipment. All the extras that you think are your constitutional right? Not in there. There is plenty to cut, You just suffer from not in my house syndrome like has been talked about earlier in the thread.

[Dlachance]

Everyone is for cuts until they realize its going to effect them.

That is not the problem. There are priorities. Soldier education is more important than Obama phones IMO.

[Forever_frost]

Says raise and support Army and Navy. Tuition programs are part of supporting the military as it's an enticement to boost enlistment. Unless of course you would like to go back to drafting. I'm all for it 4 eyes. Enjoy Iran.

[4eyedwillie]

Your blind and delusional.

[Couver]

At the risk of a lot of rocks. TA is a benifit and not a guaranteed one. The new GI bill will cover your off duty education if you need it while in service. Use if you need too while in. If you don't then enjoy college.

The GI bill will pay for college while you are in.

It's is a great deal not an entitlement.

**edit. Mr Willie no matter the fund we still need a living wage. No matter what you call it we need the bumps in our pay for housing if nothing else. We still pay taxes as well.

[Forever_frost]

Your blind and delusional.

Nope. I'm square with the constitution. As always.

[Baba Ganoush]

Your blind and delusional.

http://www.youryoure.com/

[Forever_frost]

At the risk of a lot of rocks. TA is a benifit and not a guaranteed one. The new GI bill will cover your off duty education if you need it while in service. Use if you need too while in. If you don't then enjoy college.

If it gets cut, suck it up and pay for it yourself or wait for the GI bill to kick in.

It's is a great deal not an entitlement.

I'll agree it's not a guaranteed benefit but if you offer it as an incentive to get people to enlist, you have an obligation to cover it. Part of signing up and the GI bill has been altered repeatedly. That said, after the GI bill runs out, use the Hazlewood Act. It's great.

[Couver]

I'll agree it's not a guaranteed benefit but if you offer it as an incentive to get people to enlist, you have an obligation to cover it. Part of signing up and the GI bill has been altered repeatedly. That said, after the GI bill runs out, use the Hazlewood Act. It's great.

Yep sorry I was editing so much but as everything in the military they take away much more then they give. Money is the driver and as of now we are running out.