2014.5 Mustang?

[Slowhand]

Audi/VW has owned Lamborghini for a long time. I believe starting in '06, lambo shared a lot of stuff with Audis; brakes, instrument clusters, radios/navigation/etc. The R8 is just a tamed Gallardo. In fact, when my roommate needed to replace the 02 sensor on his CPA special, he went to autozone with the Audi part # in hand, and it cost ~$60.

Best example:



Parts raided from Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini, and VW. Nothing from Porsche and Seat, unfortunately.

[MattB]

I loved that car on top gear. That had the v12 mid-mounted, correct?

[Slowhand]

I loved that car on top gear. That had the v12 mid-mounted, correct?

Yeah. Twin'd W12 out of the Bentley Continental, rear suspension/subframe was a mix of Gallardo/R8 parts (not much distinction to be had there, but they made it).

Question today is, how would they incorporate the Ducati corporate parts bin into that mess?

[MattB]

Yeah. Twin'd W12 out of the Bentley Continental, rear suspension/subframe was a mix of Gallardo/R8 parts (not much distinction to be had there, but they made it).

Question today is, how would they incorporate the Ducati corporate parts bin into that mess?

Single-sided swingarm 3 wheeler? Lol

[Slowhand]

Single-sided swingarm 3 wheeler? Lol

I think that covers the term "deathtrap" pretty adequately. It'd be fun while it lasted, though.

[crapstang]

It'd be best if they came like this stock:

[Slowhand]

2015 Mustang to get ecoboost 4-banger, but only in Europe:

http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2015-ford-mustang-to-get-four-cylinder-engine-but-for-europe-only.html

Just the Facts:
The 2015 Ford Mustang is slated to get a fuel-efficient 2.3-liter four-cylinder gasoline engine, but only for European editions.
The engine is based on the turbocharged 2.0-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder engine featured in the 2013 Ford Focus ST.
Engine output is likely to rise from 252 horsepower to 300 hp in 2.3-liter form, according to company insiders.

GENEVA — The 2015 Ford Mustang is slated to get a fuel-efficient 2.3-liter four-cylinder gasoline engine, but only for European editions of the pony car, Edmunds learned at the 2013 Geneva Auto Show.

The four-cylinder engine is not expected to be offered to Mustang buyers in the U.S. The small four-cylinder engine will be offered to European buyers as a more economical, low-emissions alternative to the V8 engine in the Mustang, which is likely to be highly taxed in Europe. European buyers who feel that a Mustang should only have a V8 engine will be offered that as well.

The four-cylinder engine in the European Mustang is based on the turbocharged 2.0-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder engine featured in the 2013 Ford Focus ST.

Engine output is likely to rise from 252 horsepower to 300 hp in 2.3-liter form, according to company insiders. The 2013 Ford Focus ST achieves 23 mpg in city driving and 32 mpg on the highway, according to the automaker.

Ford announced that the Mustang would be sold in Europe last September as part of the company's aggressive product acceleration in Europe.

"You only have to look at the incredible response to Mustang when it has appeared this summer at the Goodwood Festival of Speed, in the U.K., and at the Le Mans Classic, in France, to get a sense of the excitement this American icon generates across Europe," said Stephen Odell, Ford of Europe CEO, in a statement at the time.

"The Mustang is uniquely Ford and has a huge fan base here in Europe. Now those fans have something to look forward to and we look forward to providing more details in the near future."

No word yet on Mustang pricing in Europe.

Edmunds says: The Ford Mustang will be a low-volume specialty car in Europe, but the 2.3-liter turbo engine should help to boost sales.

[Rick Modena]

Damn, too bad we won't be getting that mill in the states. That engine in the '13 Fusion kicks ass, I put that car to the test on the Autobahn in Frisco (SH 121). I can only imagine how 30 more HP on a lighter car will perform.

[Slowhand]

Damn, too bad we won't be getting that mill in the states. That engine in the '13 Fusion kicks ass, I put that car to the test on the Autobahn in Frisco (SH 121). I can only imagine how 30 more HP on a lighter car will perform.

Costs more than the V6 will and people wanting performance will likely go for the 5.0. Doesn't make a lot of sense to bring it here, despite its potential awesomeness.

Also, I don't want to have to sit through this forum's endless jokes about SVOs and the new 4-banger Mustangs not running.

[Rick Modena]

Costs more than the V6 will and people wanting performance will likely go for the 5.0. Doesn't make a lot of sense to bring it here, despite its potential awesomeness.

I saw that they are talking about maybe the V-6 EB as an option too.

Eh, I guess we will see.

[Slowhand]

I saw that they are talking about maybe the V-6 EB as an option too.

Eh, I guess we will see.

We'll see. Problem with the EcoBoost motors is that they aren't cheap, and the impetus behind non-V8 Mustangs has always (with one exception) been price, so I just don't see it happening. Maybe on the V6 EB.

[Ratt]

Damn, too bad we won't be getting that mill in the states. That engine in the '13 Fusion kicks ass, I put that car to the test on the Autobahn in Frisco (SH 121). I can only imagine how 30 more HP on a lighter car will perform.

I lol'd because it's true.

[BLAKE]

As long as it has an available V8 and retains the long hood, short deck proportions, it'll probably be fine. I've been happy with the retro thing, but I think there's room to move away from that a bit. I think if the proportions are there, you can take a lot of different directions and still retain the things that make it a mustang. (prominant grille, "C" side sculpting, hips on the rear quarters and 3 segment tail lights)

The one thing that I think they most need to adjust is the roof. Whether its 94-04 or 05-present, you can always tell what bones are underneath by the roof. It has to be a bigger departure than the pic in the first post. Nothing original about this idea, but 69-70 roof profile anyone? Put more angle in the back glass and a roof like that goes all the way back to a slight duck tail could be good.

Still a retroish foundation, but contemporize the details. And for the love of Pete, fix the damn factory 4x4 ride height.

[talisman]

The one thing that I think they most need to adjust is the roof. Whether its 94-04 or 05-present, you can always tell what bones are underneath by the roof. It has to be a bigger departure than the pic in the first post. Nothing original about this idea, but 69-70 roof profile anyone? Put more angle in the back glass and a roof like that goes all the way back to a slight duck tail could be good.

While I agree, it will never happen. You already can't fit a normal sized adult in the back seat; lower the roofline and even 10 year olds won't be able to fit.

[Snatch Napkin]

While I agree, it will never happen. You already can't fit a normal sized adult in the back seat; lower the roofline and even 10 year olds won't be able to fit.

I used to fit in the back seat of a '66 when I was 16-19 years old. My legs weren't very well off, but the roofline wasn't an issue.