Ford releases ecoboost numbers for F150: (21/15)

[white trash wagon]

I guess after daily driving a mega cab for 2yrs, I don't subscribe to the "make them smaller" mentality. I am a large American... I want room and comfort

Forrest,You can have room & comfort witout having to build 7000 lbs vehicles, Weren't your MKVII's comfy? Those weren't "huge".....

[SSMAN]

I could only imagine what future programmers will net out of that thing.

[JFurst]

pretty cool, cant wait to test drive em. And dont make em smaller, i miss big vehicles- the diesel excursion was sweet.

[Texican]

Not that I'm big on focuses but I'd like to see one with that motor.

[Cooter]

Forrest,You can have room & comfort witout having to build 7000 lbs vehicles, Weren't your MKVII's comfy? Those weren't "huge".....

comfy for driver + 1 and not so awesome on fuel mileage... similar fuel costs between the two, and the mega had room for driver + 4 COMFORTABLY plus everyone's gear and the ability to tow or haul a lot more

[TENGRAM]

Sure, they could have got better fuel efficiency out of it, but would you be willing to give up the performance for it?

[Cooter]

Sure, they could have got better fuel efficiency out of it, but would you be willing to give up the performance for it?

solid point...

but, with the tunability of direct injection and a free flowing exhaust, I think once you throw the EPA tune out the window, you might be able to find a couple MPG

you certainly can with a diesel... I realize it's apples to oranges, but the direct injection aspect opens up some good tunability, and although the turbos are VERY small, there's still going to be some margin for a little gain

[Big A]

I agree with that, trucks have gotten CRAZY huge over the last decade. Just look at a new F-150 next to an 80's version. Same for cars, a 2011 Taurus weighs 1000 lbs more than the original.

Same for the Mustang, cars in general have gotten bigger, save for the econoboxes.

[white trash wagon]

Same for the Mustang, cars in general have gotten bigger, save for the econoboxes.

Even a Honda Civic is about 800lbs heavier than 20 years ago. Weight control is the easiest way to boost performance & MPG in a vehicle. Average fuel economy, industry wide..... peaked in 1989, ever since vehicles weights have gone up & MPG's have gone down.

[white trash wagon]

comfy for driver + 1 and not so awesome on fuel mileage... similar fuel costs between the two, and the mega had room for driver + 4 COMFORTABLY plus everyone's gear and the ability to tow or haul a lot more

3/4 ton truck VS Lincoln MK VII is obviously an apples to oranges comparison, I was just pointing out that a smaller vehicle isn't always uncomfortable.

[Cooter]

I don't fit in Brittani's Accord as anything but the front passenger... I still have a couple old fox bodies, but I certainly prefer something bigger

[Sgt Beavis]

Same for the Mustang, cars in general have gotten bigger, save for the econoboxes.

Even a Honda Civic is about 800lbs heavier than 20 years ago. Weight control is the easiest way to boost performance & MPG in a vehicle. Average fuel economy, industry wide..... peaked in 1989, ever since vehicles weights have gone up & MPG's have gone down.

True in both cases.

Honda has actually stopped selling the Civic in Japan. It has gotten too big so the public there doesn't buy them. They are going after smaller vehicles like the Honda Fit or they aren't buying cars at all. The mass transit system in Japan pretty much makes it very possible to live without any car at all.

[FreightTrain]

Coming from someone that is going to be buying a 2011 f150 those numbers suck. I think I'll pass on the extra $1750 the ecoboost is going to cost. The difference in mpg between the ecoboost and the 5.0 isn't enough to offset that price difference. Not to mention the fact that dealers are going to think the ecoboost is the best thing since sliced bread and will probably want a premium for it at first. $1750 buys about 600 gallons of fuel at todays prices so I think for the 1 or 2 mpg difference I'll buy the 5.0 and use the money I saved to buy some gas.

[Magnimike1]

One of the better attributes is that it makes max torque, great for pulling, at only 2500rpm. 1000rpm less than its closest competitor.

[TX_92_Notch]

Coming from someone that is going to be buying a 2011 f150 those numbers suck. I think I'll pass on the extra $1750 the ecoboost is going to cost. The difference in mpg between the ecoboost and the 5.0 isn't enough to offset that price difference. Not to mention the fact that dealers are going to think the ecoboost is the best thing since sliced bread and will probably want a premium for it at first. $1750 buys about 600 gallons of fuel at todays prices so I think for the 1 or 2 mpg difference I'll buy the 5.0 and use the money I saved to buy some gas.

The EB is $1750 more than the base 3.7 V6. The 5.0 is $1000 more than the base V6 and $750 less than the EB.

I'm not going to argue over which is the better engine (honestly, they're both great), you can make that decision yourself. But I wouldn't let the minor difference in fuel consumption be the only factor. Like was just said, the EB makes gobs of torque gown low, where you need it in a truck...