Ford releases ecoboost numbers for F150: (21/15)

[SMKR]

Was hoping for a bit better but I'd still drive it.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/01/ford-announces-fuel-economy-figures-for-2011-f-150-ecoboost-v-6.html

[sig239]

Thats not to shabby for the CID of the set up. Have to figure they have it detuned quite a bit for towing, look at the tq per CID compared to the others.

[LS1Goat]

Not bad, actually. Look at the torque that thing is making compared to the larger displacement competitors. And it probably has a lot of room for tuning/tweaking.

[ram57ta]

Damn I didn't realize the Tundra V8 made so much HP and torque
The Titan is looking pretty pathetic with the weakest output and the worst mileage.

[Treadhead]

It's 16/22 for 2wd. The 15/21 is for 4wd.

[Cooter]

does it require premium or does direct injection allow the use of 87 octane?

if it requires premium, I'd rather have a damn 3/4 ton diesel that gets the same mileage and holds its value 5x better

[Sgt Beavis]

does it require premium or does direct injection allow the use of 87 octane?

if it requires premium, I'd rather have a damn 3/4 ton diesel that gets the same mileage and holds its value 5x better

According to this it can run on 87 octane:

http://www.insideline.com/ford/f-150/2011/2011-ford-f-150-ecoboost-v6-supercrew-first-drive.html

[white trash wagon]

The article says that is on regular gas. But 16/22 is barely better than the 5.0 V-8, I would have expected better after 2 years of hype.

[Sean88gt]

I don't see any reason they can't extract 25mpg+ out of new trucks.

[Cooter]

According to this it can run on 87 octane:
http://www.insideline.com/ford/f-150...rst-drive.html

nice!

I'm betting a good tune and a free flow exhaust w/ deleted cats, etc. will net some more mpg

[Sgt Beavis]

I don't see any reason they can't extract 25mpg+ out of new trucks.

nice!

I'm betting a good tune and a free flow exhaust w/ deleted cats, etc. will net some more mpg

Yea, I think 25mpg (or even 30mpg) is very possible. The new base 3.7 v6 has power similar to the old 4.6 V8 but it gets 23mpg. That engine doesn't even have direct injection. I was thinking that Ford could either ecoboost a large displacement 4 banger or a smaller V6 to get even better fuel economy...

Ford and GM are both planning to put their trucks through a huge weight reduction program. Ford says they'll use more magnesium and light weight alloys in their future trucks. I think they were looking at getting a 500lbs weight reduction. The problem there is that the price of their pickups will increase dramatically...

IMO the solution can be much simpler. Just give us the updated Ranger. Drop the V6 F-150 and bring the new Ranger to the US with that 3.7V6. The new Ranger is nearly 1000lbs lighter than the F-150. How can it not get better than 30mpg with that engine. Also offer the ecoboost 2.0 liter I4 (nearly 250hp). Another option is to start making the F-150 SMALLER. It is huge. It is gargantuan compared to the F-series of just a few generations ago. You can definitely make is smaller without reducing the most important needs of the truck (towing, cargo capacity, etc).

Those things would definitely bring down Ford's CAFE average and still let the public enjoy their trucks..

[Sean88gt]

I can't see paying $65k for an f150 that weighs 500lbs less.

[white trash wagon]

Another option is to start making the F-150 SMALLER. It is huge. It is gargantuan compared to the F-series of just a few generations ago. You can definitely make is smaller without reducing the most important needs of the truck (towing, cargo capacity, etc).

Those things would definitely bring down Ford's CAFE average and still let the public enjoy their trucks..

I agree with that, trucks have gotten CRAZY huge over the last decade. Just look at a new F-150 next to an 80's version. Same for cars, a 2011 Taurus weighs 1000 lbs more than the original.

[red95gts]

Another option is to start making the F-150 SMALLER. It is huge. It is gargantuan compared to the F-series of just a few generations ago.

Agreed. I owned a 2003 F-150 Super Crew and while it was a fairly big truck it was manageable for daily life. I recent rented a new F-150 Super Crew while on a business trip and I was shocked at how big the damn thing was. Trying to park it in a parking lot was a challenge and the rear seat leg room looks like a limousine.

[Cooter]

I guess after daily driving a mega cab for 2yrs, I don't subscribe to the "make them smaller" mentality. I am a large American... I want room and comfort