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  • #16
    We're y'all going to sign your sons up in the first place? We're you a Scout? If you weren't planning on your kid joining, why do you care?

    Do you still take your kids to church because based on what I've heard about some of those, I'd be very concerned letting my kid go to church camp, etc...
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    • #17
      Paul, teaching your son that people aren't to be looked up to because they're gay is kind of shitty. It's totally your business, but you can't be accepting and disapproving when it's basically something that doesn't have anything to do with you. If you don't accept gays as equals, then be clear about that. Your opinion is valid either way. Either teach him to be unnaccepting of gays, or teach him to be accepting of them, but don't muddy the water unnecessarily. Also, odds are the den mother won't be gay, and neither will the scout leader, so there's really not a point in making a decision until you come to it. If all his buddies are joining, and he wants to join, and you're cool with troop leadership, what's the problem?
      ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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      • #18
        As a kid, I had zero interest in cub/boy scouts or church.

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        • #19
          I understand where OP is coming from. Unless you have a child, you don't really understand 110%.
          WRX

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          • #20
            Originally posted by yellowstang View Post
            As a kid, I had zero interest in cub/boy scouts or church.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Frank View Post
              Its a private organization. Since when is it anyone's damn business who they want to allow? There are many other private organizations that do not/would not employ or be forced to employ someone they don't want. Let someone else come up with an organization to allow other lifestyles to run.
              One of the main things is the "creed" the boy scouts follow includes being Christian. I don't want to get into a religous debate but there is that issue.

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              • #22
                Some goofy shit going on in this thread.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by yellowstang View Post
                  As a kid, I had zero interest in cub/boy scouts or church.
                  I loved the outdoors and doing the campouts, hikes and shit. Was a great part of my childhood.

                  As for church, i was done with that shit by 5 yrs old.

                  One of the main things is the "creed" the boy scouts follow includes being Christian
                  Depends on the troop. Mine wasn't. Life is full of grey, so it sucks when people force things into black/white.

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                  • #24
                    First off this thread went full auto ignorant when someone suggested gay=pedo. WOW!!!

                    Second of all, I wouldnt care one bit if any of my 3 boys were in a troop with a gay scout leader. I have met plenty of straight people who had far shittier morals than alot of gay people I have met.

                    Third, boy scouts should allow who ever they want. Like I was telling my wife today who was going on and on about this. Both boy scouts and girls scouts discriminate as it is. Girl scouts will turn away boys who want to join and visa versa. No one complains about that but as soon as they discriminate against who can be troop leaders then everyone gets their feelings hurt. So discriminating against a persons sex is ok but not against their sexual orientation?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Binky View Post
                      I loved the outdoors and doing the campouts, hikes and shit. Was a great part of my childhood.

                      As for church, i was done with that shit by 5 yrs old.



                      Depends on the troop. Mine wasn't. Life is full of grey, so it sucks when people force things into black/white.
                      I loved the outdoors too, but did all that shit with my family. Maybe growing up in Colorado was different, but we were always outside. All I needed as a kid was a bike, sling shot or my Red Ryder BB gun, and some friends to get into mischief with! And an older brother and sister who got me beer when I was 15.

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                      • #26
                        Most parents consider the scouts to be a place where you can keep your boy with trustworthy, earnest adult role models. This may come as a shock, but most parents are hetero (DUH) and don't want their kids spending time with gays as role models for their children. Simple as that.
                        When the government pays, the government controls.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
                          Most parents consider the scouts to be a place where you can keep your boy with trustworthy, earnest adult role models. This may come as a shock, but most parents are hetero (DUH) and don't want their kids spending time with gays as role models for their children. Simple as that.
                          because their kid might catch the gay germ? Or fear that they might be doing gay stuff around them?
                          .....bro....

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by A+ View Post
                            because their kid might catch the gay germ? Or fear that they might be doing gay stuff around them?
                            There are already plenty of outlets for kids to be exposed to gay people and behavior. Scouts is an organization where you leave your kids completely in the care of other adults, often for the first time in their life. So ask yourself, how comfortable are you sending your 5yr old boy into the woods with a gay man for a week?
                            When the government pays, the government controls.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
                              There are already plenty of outlets for kids to be exposed to gay people and behavior. Scouts is an organization where you leave your kids completely in the care of other adults, often for the first time in their life. So ask yourself, how comfortable are you sending your 5yr old boy into the woods with a gay man for a week?
                              Because if he is gay he could be a pedophile as well?
                              "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ELVIS View Post

                                my thoughts are best described as acceptance not approval when it comes to this matter. jsut wondering where the braintrust sat on this issue....

                                god bless.
                                I'm in agreement with you on this. However I would consider allowing my kid in the troop if the leader was morally sound. Yes, I do believe gay people can be morally sound outside of the fact that they are gay. My Mom is gay and she ran the full gambit of immorality at one point of her life and grew to be a fairly moral person in the last 20 years. I know a gay couple in the Lake Cities that just adopted a child from the same agency that my wife and I used and they are of very high moral character. Christ COMMANDS us to love others. He didn't give any special qualification with that.

                                The only place I would draw the line is if they tried to get approval of their lifestyle choice from my kid. I think I'd have to have a serious talk with them at that point.

                                Originally posted by BMCSean View Post
                                I guess it's better than having a priest as the troop leader.
                                ZING! And well deserved.....

                                Originally posted by Chas_svo View Post
                                To many, the difference between gay and pedo are zilch.
                                .
                                Please don't go full retard on us...

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