with the short shorts and neckerchief.....

[talisman]

LoL ok I supposed your bible reads "nor abusers of themselves with men,"

That means homosexuals. Are you seriously arguing God is cool with homosexuals?

Are you seriously arguing to presume you know gods will while simultaneously making the HUGE leap that there is one, and in addition he is concerned with two chicks eating each other out?

[Snatch Napkin]

herpderpalerpigus!!

[Pro88LX]

Are you seriously arguing to presume you know gods will while simultaneously making the HUGE leap that there is one, and in addition he is concerned with two chicks eating each other out?

If they're 2 hot chicks i think God is ok with it.....its the gay guys and butchy lezbos he doesnt like.

[Sgt Beavis]

1 Corinthians 6:9 makes it pretty clear where God stands on the issue of homosexuality.

As long as Christians are funding Boy Scouts, this will always be an issue.

Yes, but that is for God to deal with. You are still COMMANDED to love others. That doesn't mean approval of their behavior. Christ wants all sinners to have the chance to accept God's grace of salvation. He doesn't want us pushing people away with hate but instead show them how he has brought love into our lives.

However, in this context, Paul is specifically talking about lawsuits between believers. He is warning against bringing such lawsuits for judgement by unbelievers. He admonishes brothers taking each other to court in front of unbelievers. He goes even further saying we shouldn't be wronging and cheating each other in the first place. He then reminds them in verse 9 of those that won't inherit God's kingdom, but he is referring to them.. verse 11 says "And that is what some of you were"

More bluntly he is saying, take care of your own business among yourselves and be honest..

That passage mentions nothing about homosexuality.

It does, but the context of the chapter is a warning to believers about their own actions. The Bible is clear that homosexuality is wrong, but it also equates it to adultery and other sexual immorality. I bet a lot of people that call themselves Christians are just as guilty as homosexuals.. I will admit that my hands are not clean either.

But MR is right that it isn't an issue that will go away as long as the Boy Scouts troops are primarily funded Christian churches. However I bet a lot of people would be surprised to know that the largest group of church sponsored troops are Mormon.

http://www.scouting.org/About/FactSheets/operating_orgs.aspx

[mustang_revival]

making the HUGE leap that there is one

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[talisman]

If they're 2 hot chicks i think God is ok with it.....its the gay guys and butchy lezbos he doesnt like.

Change "God" to "every homophobic male on the planet" and I've think you've hit the nail on the head. I'll never forget the guy in Canada arguing against homosexuality because it was an affront to god that had a huge signature with two chicks making out. Classic.

[46Tbird]

That type of strawman argument "comeback" is exactly why I am saying these discussions are nothing like each other. It takes one smartass comment to derail everything down to a mess of bullshit.

Don't get yourself too torqued. From my point of view, this is exactly the same argument with different players. I don't expect anyone else to agree.

[racrguy]

Yes, but that is for God to deal with. You are still COMMANDED to love others. That doesn't mean approval of their behavior. Christ wants all sinners to have the chance to accept God's grace of salvation. He doesn't want us pushing people away with hate but instead show them how he has brought love into our lives.

However, in this context, Paul is specifically talking about lawsuits between believers. He is warning against bringing such lawsuits for judgement by unbelievers. He admonishes brothers taking each other to court in front of unbelievers. He goes even further saying we shouldn't be wronging and cheating each other in the first place. He then reminds them in verse 9 of those that won't inherit God's kingdom, but he is referring to them.. verse 11 says "And that is what some of you were"

More bluntly he is saying, take care of your own business among yourselves and be honest..



It does, but the context of the chapter is a warning to believers about their own actions. The Bible is clear that homosexuality is wrong, but it also equates it to adultery and other sexual immorality. I bet a lot of people that call themselves Christians are just as guilty as homosexuals.. I will admit that my hands are not clean either.

But MR is right that it isn't an issue that will go away as long as the Boy Scouts troops are primarily funded Christian churches. However I bet a lot of people would be surprised to know that the largest group of church sponsored troops are Mormon.

http://www.scouting.org/About/FactSh...ting_orgs.aspx

If churches, and a vast majority of religions, wish to remain relevant they're going to have to modernize themselves, just as they have with slavery and evolution. Most church officials will tell you slavery is bad, but it's ok'd in the great book of fairy tales.

[talisman]

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You can't sit here and tell me what you said didn't sound ludicrous.

[racrguy]

You can't sit here and tell me what you said didn't sound ludicrous.

I'm going to wait for him to say it didn't. Then we can engage in lulz.

[Pro88LX]

i'll never forget the guy in canada arguing against homosexuality because it was an affront to god that had a huge signature with two chicks making out. Classic.

in his defense though they weren't necesarily lesbians LOL

[talisman]

I'm going to wait for him to say it didn't. Then we can engage in lulz.

Ease back, rookie, I don't need help.

[mustang_revival]

You can't sit here and tell me what you said didn't sound ludicrous.

The arguement was the passage was referring to homosexuals. It is pretty clearly.

Those who beilive the bible was written as inspired by God, this would convey his thoughts on the subject no?

However if you don't beilive in the passage, the bible, or god for that matter the point is lost anyway.

[Sean88gt]

Respect for an individual to have their own choices and live their own lives how they choose and see fit is a human right.

And gay men and women are already leaders of your children and have been for thousands of years.

But good on you for not putting up with it anymore.

You're trying to paint anyone with an opposing viewpoint as a homophobe. You're lashing out with intolerance to force us to demonstrate tolerance.

[talisman]

The arguement was the passage was referring to homosexuals. It is pretty clearly.

Those who beilive the bible was written as inspired by God, this would convey his thoughts on the subject no?

However if you don't beilive in the passage, the bible, or god for that matter the point is lost anyway.

I'd be far more inclined to entertain the notion of a god than someone taking something written before humans had any grasp of the universe as a species, writing a book that magically gives them easy answers, and then tells them how live so that things will be better when they are dead then when they are alive.