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That's what I don't like, damn it. Engineers are quite intelligent, on par with scientists and architects. Train drivers are NOT engineers. -
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Originally posted by slow99 View Postlink http://www.csx.com/index.cfm/about-c...el-efficiency/Code:To be perfectly clear, a train that does this typically isn’t carrying any freight. Trains that carry one ton of freight get just below 500 mpg. Moving freight by train is about 3 times more fuel efficient than doing so by highway. You might be thinking 500 mpg sounds more like 20 times the fuel efficiency of highway freight, but the 500 mpg figure is just for one ton of cargo. Both trains and, for example, the trucks you see carrying a dozen or so cars, carry many tons of freight. One of the benefits of train transport, aside from the fuel efficiency, is the reduced gas emissions. Fuel efficiency for trains is measured in terms of ton-miles, because of the variance in length and weight of the trains. Ton miles are simply the amount of distance traveled with an amount of weight with the amount of fuel used (in gallons). In 2009, most CSX trains (an American company) averaged 468 miles per gallon per ton. Since 2000, CSX has spent $1.5 billion on improving locomotive fuel efficiency and reducing emissions alone. Read more at http://www.omg-facts.com/Technology/Trains-Can-Get-500-Miles-Per-Gallon-Of-F/52120#qu84gKI0XzrQWpFR.99
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Found this... while 4.5yrs old, I'm certain it's not too far off, given CPI movement...
Well at least a nigga nigga rich...Law change could drive up personnel costs for SEPTA
September 15, 2008|By Paul Nussbaum, Inquirer Staff Writer
SEPTA has 525 engineers, conductors and assistant conductors to run its railroad.
Not one works a 40-hour week.
Because of a shortage of qualified workers, the complex nature of rush-hour scheduling, and SEPTA's desire to limit costs for employee benefits, all engineers and conductors work overtime every week, and are paid accordingly.
The typical engineer or conductor is paid for 67 hours a week. The typical engineer earned $85,450 in 2007, SEPTA records show. Forty-three made more than $100,000 last year, and the top-earning engineer made $140,917.
The typical conductor earned $70,766 last year, and the highest-paid conductor made $133,179.
And SEPTA's crews make less than many of their counterparts on other commuter lines, as SEPTA's hourly wages are among the lowest in the northeastern United States: $27.55 an hour for its most-senior engineers, $25.22 an hour for most-senior conductors, and $21.22 for top-paid assistant conductors.
The costs for SEPTA and other rail operators may soon rise considerably, as a proposed change in federal law would reduce the consecutive hours that railroaders are permitted to work. That could force transit agencies and railroads to hire more engineers and conductors, reducing overtime but driving up costs for training and benefits.
SEPTA might need to hire 75 to 100 more employees, costing it $15 million to $30 million, said Jeanne Neese, SEPTA legislative counsel.
The change in federal law has been approved by the House and the Senate, but the two houses still must reconcile the differences in their bills. Commuter railroads would get a three-year reprieve from the new rules under the Senate version.
The big paychecks and long hours of railroad workers are tied directly to the unusual nature of their jobs. And the costs are boosted by a long history of employee benefits that are more lucrative - and more expensive - for railroad workers than most other workers.
"It appears there is a lot of money being thrown at us, but we actually earn that money," said Tom Dorricott, an engineer on the R3 Media/Elwyn line who is also a union representative for the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen. "You don't become an engineer unless you want to make money, because of the stressful hours. You have to work long and odd hours."
The irony is when googling "highest paid engineers" I keep getting various articles that are titled "high paying blue collar jobs"....Last edited by Roscoe; 02-04-2013, 06:02 PM.Comment
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I can think of better ways to make $200k+.... fuck this... I'm certain this is by far the exception, but damn. 3x salary in OT? That's stupid work hours.
I bet he has really nice furniture, though....
Hop on the gravy train: LIRR engineer pulls in $250G with OT pay
An LIRR engineer punched his ticket on the MTA gravy train again, pocketing nearly $175,000 in overtime and other perks in 2010 - his third straight year as one of the agency's top earners.
Though Dominick Masiello's base salary was $75,389, he took home more than triple that amount - a staggering $250,401, payroll records show.
The monster payday was nothing new for Masiello, 57. For the past three years, the Long Island man has ranked among the top 10 highest-paid workers in terms of overtime and extras.
In 2009, he raked in $147,514 in overtime and perks on top of his $75,389 salary. The previous year, he scored $160,000 in extras to pad his $73,193 salary.
Masiello retired from the Long Island Rail Road in December, but he still managed to take home a quarter-million dollars for the year - putting him among the MTA's top 10 best-compensated employees in 2010, records show.
He was in the same stratosphere as MTA chief Jay Walder ($349,040) and the top honchos of the LIRR, New York City Transit and Metro-North.
Masiello defended his haul, saying union work rules allowed him to rake in big bucks. For example, he made an extra day's pay when he was moved to a different station.
"There's nothing to hide," he said from his modest, two-story brick home in Port Washington. "I worked hard for that money."
Masiello added he has worked the night shift for nearly 30 years, putting in at least six days a week. "Most people say, 'I don't know how you did that job,'" Masiello said. "I put my life into it."
An MTA official said Masiello's gargantuan salary in 2010 was largely due to his retiring, which enabled him to cash out sick and vacation days.
But the official agreed Masiello has all along benefitted from arcane union work rules - and he wasn't the only one.
Dennis Reardon, a conductor, tripled his salary in 2010, turning a base of $75,389 into a $240,251 bonanza.
Reardon, who also retired in December, padded his salary with $83,791.92 in overtime and $83,999.60 in unused sick and vacation days.
"I did 32 years of ... lousy shifts - working weekends, working summers," said Reardon, 57, of Setauket. "I paid my dues."
A second conductor, Benjamin Jankowski, also tripled his salary, thanks to $155,000 in overtime and other perks.
Transit advocates say the numbers show that the long-held practice of pension padding - working excessive overtime in the final years of a job to boost pension payments - is still alive and well.
"It raises big questions when the base salaries and the [total salaries] are so different," said Gene Russianoff, staff lawyer for the Straphangers Campaign. "It makes you wonder how efficient their management is if they're supervising employees who earn three times as much as their base salary."
MTA officials acknowledge the problem, noting that pension costs are rising at a rate of 8% a year.
"Pension padding is an issue that we are trying to address through collective bargaining, but many of our pensions are legislatively mandated," an official said.
The 2010 payroll records show that some of the MTA's efforts to rein in spending have borne fruit.
The agency's total payroll dipped slightly, from $5.21 billion in 2009 to $5.11 billion in 2010.
"These numbers reflect the enormous efforts we've taken to reduce costs, eliminating 3,500 positions and cracking down on unnecessary overtime," said spokesman Kevin Ortiz.
rschapiro@nydailynews.com
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They aren't saying that. To come up with a train's MPG, you first divide miles by gallons, then divide that result by the number of tons.Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
(A/B)/C = X
where A = miles, B = gallons, C = tons, X = mpg
(450/1) / 1 = 450mpg, but that is with a 1 ton train.
If the train weighs 100 tons, then
(450/1) / 100 = 4.5mpg
If it weighs 200 tons, then it is getting 2.25mpg, and so on.
And I'm fairly certain it's all bullshit, just like EPA highway numbers are bullshit.When the government pays, the government controls.Comment
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Then how do those numbers make sense? This isn't the number they start with, it's the number they're touting as the final number.I wear a Fez. Fez-es are coolComment
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It isn't miles per gallon; it's ton-miles per gallon.Originally posted by BroncojohnnyComment
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I don't care about using the Pythagorean theorem to figure out freighttrain sucks, but I do want to know if a train gets better gas mileage than my Prius?Comment
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Sounds unconstitutional.Originally posted by Nash B. View PostOriginally posted by davbrucasComment
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Okay, I think I'm looking at this wrong.
Compared to a 2013 Mustang 5.0, which gets better mileage?I wear a Fez. Fez-es are coolComment
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Dammit, eyes on your own paperOriginally posted by slow99 View PostI wear a Fez. Fez-es are coolComment
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Depends on what they're pulling.Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostOriginally posted by BroncojohnnyComment
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I think I have this figured out now. I will say that these cold medicines are kicking my ass as far as fogging my thoughts.
The train will run a mile carrying a load. That load is measured in tons, also taking into account the weight of the train. The amount of fuel burned during that mile is divided by the weight of the freight and train.
Still sounds fishy.I wear a Fez. Fez-es are coolComment
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