Hey Choo Choo guys

[Buick355]

Interesting. So wouldn't it make more sense to, instead of destroying the trains after their service, hook them into the grid?

My guess is that the current methods of boiling water is still more efficient.

[Taylor]

Think if those computers took a shit out on the main line, then you have a dead train on a main line holding up other trains. That deliver goods to many of the places you shop. Or they go nuts and blow through signals causing a huge derail with hazmat chemicals all over the place.

A maintenance guy every hundred miles or so to troubleshoot. Feasible.

[Forever_frost]

Think if those computers took a shit out on the main line, then you have a dead train on a main line holding up other trains. That deliver goods to many of the places you shop. Or they go nuts and blow through signals causing a huge derail with hazmat chemicals all over the place.

Same argument can be made for an engineer having a stroke, dozing off or playing Angry Birds on his phone

[aggie97]

At max power one locomotive can produce 1500 amps. On a 120 volt system thats 180,000 watts or 180 kilowatts. In it's simplest form a locomotive is nothing but a large generator.

that's all? We installed 2megawatt gen sets that could power huge data centers....they switched into 4000 amp service banks. Seems the train is just a little motor compared to the V16's these had.

[Ruffdaddy]

Just shows how ignorant you are about the nations railroad system. Oh but on dfwmustangs anyone can be an expert on anything. I almost forgot about that.

Shows how ignorant you are about autonomy. If a broke dick like you can do it, a computer can do it 4377 times better.

[FreightTrain]

Shows how ignorant you are about autonomy. If a broke dick like you can do it, a computer can do it 4377 times better.

If I'm considered a broke dick you must be rolling pennies for gas money lol.

[Forever_frost]

If I'm considered a broke dick you must be rolling pennies for gas money lol.

YOu're not providing evidence your job cannot be done by a computer at a fraction of the cost with more efficiency. And weren't you supposed to post up a paycheck for some reason and post up your benefits in relation to mine and explain how yours are better than my non union ones? You disappear it seems, when you can't either brag about your money or your union

[bcoop]

YOu're not providing evidence your job cannot be done by a computer at a fraction of the cost with more efficiency. And weren't you supposed to post up a paycheck for some reason and post up your benefits in relation to mine and explain how yours are better than my non union ones? You disappear it seems, when you can't either brag about your money or your union

And less mistakes...


He's never going to respond on the check stub. He figured out that he was going to lose. That, or his wife won't let him.

[turboskull1]

4500 horsepower or 3.35 megawatts in load test, the total genset output capability is substantially more than that, the limiting factors are the traction motors and overall reliability. Locomotives can be hooked into the grid, but obviously there's much more efficient means of producing electricity.

[Forever_frost]

Now THAT is an answer. I thought they were super fuel efficient. That's what the commercials say.

Found it: Trains can move a ton of freight nearly 450 miles on a single gallon of fuel.

http://www.csx.com/index.cfm/about-csx/projects-and-partnerships/fuel-efficiency/

So, since it's not under the load of moving the train, shouldn't you be able to run that generator forever on a gas can? I mean 450 miles on a gallon? It's not doing 450 miles an hour so even at 60 you're looking at 7.5 hours on 1 gallon of fuel. Sounds like it'd be more efficient than anything we have running

[turboskull1]

Now THAT is an answer. I thought they were super fuel efficient. That's what the commercials say.

Found it: Trains can move a ton of freight nearly 450 miles on a single gallon of fuel.

http://www.csx.com/index.cfm/about-csx/projects-and-partnerships/fuel-efficiency/

So, since it's not under the load of moving the train, shouldn't you be able to run that generator forever on a gas can? I mean 450 miles on a gallon? It's not doing 450 miles an hour so even at 60 you're looking at 7.5 hours on 1 gallon of fuel. Sounds like it'd be more efficient than anything we have running

You've got to think about the physics of it, once in motion an object tends to stay in motion right? So once you get 20k tons of freight rolling, especially on a surface with a low amount of friction its going to want to keep moving, most of your horsepower or tractive effort will be used to start out, or for pulling hills, this is why you never see big variations in grade in track, less horsepower required equals less fuel usage. Power generation for the grid on the other hand requires a constant set output, with the genset operating within a specific load paremeter for the entire run time duration.

[Forever_frost]

I get that. But they said 450 miles on 1 gallon. Even moving zero freight that's still 450 miles. Averaging 60 mph that's 7.5 hours on one gallon. So that train should be able to run AT LEAST 7.5 hours on one gallon of diesel right?

[Hmbre97]

I get that. But they said 450 miles on 1 gallon. Even moving zero freight that's still 450 miles. Averaging 60 mph that's 7.5 hours on one gallon. So that train should be able to run AT LEAST 7.5 hours on one gallon of diesel right?

You're not getting it. They say it can move 1 ton of freight 450 miles on a gallon. Not that the train gets 450 mpg. All they're doing is dividing the total load of the train vs fuel used.

[turboskull1]

I get that. But they said 450 miles on 1 gallon. Even moving zero freight that's still 450 miles. Averaging 60 mph that's 7.5 hours on one gallon. So that train should be able to run AT LEAST 7.5 hours on one gallon of diesel right?

You are looking at it like miles traveled per gallon of fuel used, when in actuality it is based upon the amount of gross tonnage moved per mile per gallon of fuel used.

[turboskull1]

You're not getting it. They say it can move 1 ton of freight 450 miles on a gallon. Not that the train gets 450 mpg. All they're doing is dividing the total load of the train vs fuel used.

Exactly