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  • Do you really need that car?

    The secret fear of the world's biggest auto companies
    By Micheline Maynard | Forbes.com – Wed, Jan 23, 2013 2:33 PM EST

    The glitz and glamor of the year’s first big auto show is still reverberating around the industry, and with the American economy picking up, optimism is the order of the day in Detroit.

    But behind the scenes, there are some real worries around the world about just how strong the auto market will be. This weekend, Jalopnik.com, the auto enthusiast Web site, raised a question that many companies have been asking themselves:

    What if the auto market is at Peak Car? Translated, that means, what if the biggest car countries of the world have maxed out on consumer demand for automobiles?

    Jalopnik based that question on a story last week from Quartz, the business site run by The Atlantic Monthly. It suggested that the world is basically on the verge of global gridlock. It suggested the world’s auto companies are facing a future in which they become “enablers of mobility,” helping nations develop systems to move people around, rather than sell them individual conveyances.

    Purists, like those who read Jalopnik, scoff at that idea, saying there will always be demand for vehicles that set their owners blood on fire. But it’s a question that many people who study transportation have been pondering for some time now. I first took a look at the topic in 2009 for The New York Times, when I wrote,

    “For generations, American car buying has been guided by one grand philosophy: which one do I want? But now, another question has begun to percolate: do I need a car at all?”

    In recent years, I’ve only become more convinced that the job for the world’s biggest auto companies will simply get harder. All around the United States and Canada, people are thinking seriously about giving up their automobiles. Of course, this is impossible to do if you’re a farmer in the Great Plains or a contractor in Texas, where you simply have to be able to load up a pickup.

    But in American and Canadian cities, the emphasis is much less on building new roads, and much more on building bike paths. Ann Arbor, Michigan, where I live, has put on a strong push the past year or so to protect pedestrians. The campus at Stanford University in Palo Alto seems to have almost more bicycles than students.

    People are clamoring to use public transportation in places from Chicago to Los Angeles, where downtown residents just voted to bring back streetcars. Bike rentals abound everywhere from Boston to Chattanooga. And everywhere, people want to live places where they can walk, whether to work or just go for a stroll in the evening.

    Meanwhile, more women than men are now buying automobiles, and their choices are sharply different from those that male buyers make, as I reported for Forbes last year.

    These social trends may be just as significant for the automobile industry as the original shift to horseless carriages a century ago. Back then, people felt hampered by their lack of mobility and itched to get out of cities into leafy green suburbs, where they’d have room to breathe.

    Now, young consumers — and even middle-aged and older ones — are rethinking the lifestyle that has them go from inside a house to inside a car. The possibility of Peak Car is seismic, and it portends change not just for Detroit, but for automakers in Europe, China, Japan, Brazil and elsewhere.

    Quartz, in its story last week, isn’t predicting the end of the automobile. But it believes automobile companies will have to integrate themselves into a transportation system for a high-population, low-emission future.

    I think the challenge is even more significant. Auto companies, who are used to playing on peoples’ emotions and sense of independence, now have to find new ways for consumers to consider making them part of their lives.

    In the past, they had to build a case for choosing their vehicle over someone else’s. Now, they have to build a case for owning a car at all. And their secret fear is that they may not be able to do so.


    Maybe it is a Texas thing, but its never crossed my mind to not own a car.

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    Know a few people that live in dallas and austin that dont have a car.

    They either commute with coworkers or if they have to just rent a car from an individual for a day.

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    • #3
      Can see not needing one if you live in a big city, and it would be smart to cut that rather large unnecessary expense. I'll always own a car, as I'm sure the rest of the demographic of this site will.

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      • #4
        It is a terrible money pit anyway you cut it though.
        Originally posted by MR EDD
        U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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        • #5
          Don't need one here, but we have 2.
          Originally posted by davbrucas
          I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

          Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

          You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by slow99 View Post
            Don't need one here, but we have 2.
            opulence, he has it!
            Originally posted by Broncojohnny
            HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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            • #7
              I have three, only use one.

              And I don't see how I would live without a car. Everytime I go somewhere, its several miles away. And out here in the subs, there isn't any mass transit.
              Originally posted by Silverback
              Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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              • #8
                Sounds like just another uptown dweller who thinks the whole world is like his little area.
                Originally posted by racrguy
                What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                Originally posted by racrguy
                Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                • #9
                  I'm so used to the conveniance of a car, I was just asking myself the other day how people live without have a vehicle to drive...
                  "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, 1776

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                    Sounds like just another uptown dweller who thinks the whole world is like his little area.
                    This!

                    I recondition headlights on most cars for $50.00. If interested shoot me a pm.

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                    • #11
                      Until I can drive a commuter train any Fing way I want, I'll have a car. I KNOW Barry and his ilk don't want you to have a car.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ceyko View Post
                        It is a terrible money pit anyway you cut it though.
                        It doesn't have to be.
                        Originally posted by Broncojohnny
                        HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by EW View Post
                          Until I can drive a commuter train any Fing way I want, I'll have a car. I KNOW Barry and his ilk don't want you to have a car.
                          Same here, if DART could get me to my job I would take advantage of it. I miss the days of working at City Place and being able to take the DART rail to work

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BlackGT View Post
                            I'm so used to the conveniance of a car, I was just asking myself the other day how people live without have a vehicle to drive...
                            You're right, it is conveniAnt.


                            lol

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                            • #15
                              I take the TRE to/from work but still need a car to get to the station.

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