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    Working in healthcare has led me to the conclusion that people are greedy at other people's expense due to a SIMPLE conversation that never took place. It seems like it is happening more and more that families will drag their family members through hell and torture them due to their greed.

    I work in an ICU where some people are kept alive that should have died long ago. I see family members revoke their family wishes because of greed as well as guilt. Modern medicine can be a blessing and a curse at the same time and it is often due to people not willing to let go. People allow their family members to get such bad bedsores you could stick your hand under their tailbone. Their flesh and meat is gone and nothing is left but an infection and a gaping hole. They allow their family members to be brain dead and stay on ventilators for years to come. Neglect and poor care leads to suffering and pain. When doctors and nurses recommend allowing a persons wishes to be fulfilled, we are vilified. A nonsense fear of doctors want to intentionally allow people do die runs amok among the ignorant. Im tired of people being greedy and torturing their family members. Fortunately I am in the medical field though before that, as I grew up my parents have always told us that when it is there time to go, we should allow them to leave this world. Do not keep them alive to become a vegetable or burden of a nursing home. Why these conversations are not common place I do not know.

    There are so many cases I could share that make people sick to hear yet we allow our own family members to do this to each other. CPR on a 98 year old is horrifying if people only knew. To the nurses and doctors, we get angry and family members who want us to break peoples ribs and allow them to suffer while they watch. A person who has exhausted all heart surgeries possible at the age of 80 that had a heart that stopped. A 75 pound lady who hasnt been out of bed in 2 years and family members give them alcohol and cigarettes. Dragging that lady through months in the ICU, a tracheostomy and a feeding tube just so she can be stuck in a nursing home in the same bed for the rest of her life. People are sick and it is sad we treat animals better than our own families.

    Not really sure where Im going with this rant other than I ask all of you to please consider your families wishes. Talk to them, young and old and let them know what you want from your life and when you are not able to make these decisions. Young and old, people are taken from us and often medicine will intervene before this can happen and a patient cannot express their own wishes. Live the best life you can... Tell your family how you feel about moving on. If you want everything possible done to save your life, that is okay but they need to know. Im not here to sell a DNR (do not resuscitate) but you should allow your family to know your clear wishes. Please listen to your doctors and nurses. While they can be wrong, they have experience and can often predict how thing will play out. They are not hear to kill patients nor drag on a persons life because they want the money. Ultimately your family is your dictator. Me personally....just let me go. I dont ever want to be stuck in a nursing home. Dont drop me off to let me be neglected by overrun shitholes like that. I want the dignity and respect to allow me to die. I do not want someone to change my diaper until I die nor do I want my family members to have to make the decision of whether nor not to keep trying. I have told them and they know when it is my time it is my time. There is no need to be a hero. I live the best life I can and when I die, I will have been happy.

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    Cliffs notes?

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    • #3
      if you are too lazy to read, you probably wouldnt care anyways

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      • #4
        How does greed play into what you are describing?
        Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by svo855 View Post
          How does greed play into what you are describing?
          People want to keep their family member here for their own happiness. Often at the expense of their family member. They revoke their family's DNR because they are not willing to let go. It is simple greed. It becomes about them, not the patient.

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          • #6
            the greed of keeping that person with us for as long as possible when my dad goes ill break anyones jaw that tries to revoke his DNR


            and 8mpg beat me to it

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            • #7
              Welcome to the real world!

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              • #8
                Also from personal experience have a will & ensure your parents & loved ones do too. Otherwise what begins as selfishness before they die drags out for years in the probate system. All for a different sort of greed & selfishness. No one left behind really gets to grieve then heal with closure if people are fighting about what amounts to bullshit in court. Anyone who knows us knows the 4 years of Hell we went through & are still dealing with due to the lack of a simple will. A living will is a good place to start then carry through with the actual will.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 8mpg View Post
                  People want to keep their family member here for their own happiness. Often at the expense of their family member. They revoke their family's DNR because they are not willing to let go. It is simple greed. It becomes about them, not the patient.

                  That is something other than greed.

                  How does a family revoke a DNR order?
                  Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.

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                  • #10
                    Every one dies. BIG fact.

                    I have lost both of my parents before the age of 65. Good and bad. I hate they are gone, but I do not have to see them have terrible endings. I actually have real hate to someone that has a 90 year old grand parent or mom/dad.

                    If you have a parent, and a grand parent. HUG them. It sucks when they are gone.
                    Some cars and a bike...

                    Some say... they have been raced, some a lot

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by svo855 View Post
                      That is something other than greed.

                      How does a family revoke a DNR order?
                      Easy... you can either:

                      1. Dont tell anyone about it (people dont carry copies of it)
                      2. When you are dead or cant make their own decisions, people can do whatever they want. The doctor turns to the family members and says, your family member is dying/dead and all you say is "you have to do everything". The next of kin is automatically given rights to decide the fate
                      3. Contest it in court

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                      • #12
                        I came to this conclusion about 6 months ago that the end of mankind will come from our inability to accept the fact that we will all and need to die at some point. Extending ones life doesn't necessarily mean improving the quality of life one lives.
                        "Any dog under 50lbs is a cat and cats are pointless." - Ron Swanson

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                        • #13
                          My brother and I are the decision maker for our mom and it actually boils down to me making every decision which is hard, but I know her wishes to a tee and it's my job to honor them. My dad is remarried so his ol' lady has the say there, but I'm sure once she figures out she can't fend for herself it'll be a disaster. My brother holds the say for me and vice versa.

                          Upon watching how people truly are just wanting a body there as their "security blanket" or fighting over material things that truly didn't mean crap just to be greedy I laid it all out on the table and it's in writing. My brother gets every possession I own and he can do whatever he sees fit. He holds all life insurance policies for me and vice versa.

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                          • #14
                            this is your mission statement? i'm gonna share this with some nurse friends of mine if you don't mind. good job it was worth the read

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                            • #15
                              I see this shit every time I visit my grandma in hospice. She's laid up in bed, doesn't remember shit, quit taking her meds, and shits all over herself. But she's not on any machines and hasn't died yet. More power to her.

                              The poor fucks that are nothing but being pumped with meds and machines to stay alive disgusts me. Not is it just a greed on personal happiness with life, but some folks make money off keeping these people alive.

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