Where does America really stand?

[Jester]

I don't know why you guys even bother engaging with this clown.

same reason they engage with us and us them. because what else are we gonna do?

[4eyedwillie]

Third parties don't work, google history.

In the past your right. I don't think that either of the two parties have been so far from center in the past. IMO it leave a nice big opening in the middle were most people are.

[CJ]

In the past your right. I don't think that either of the two parties have been so far from center in the past. IMO it leave a nice big opening in the middle were most people are.

That's what everyone said every time it has been tried. The way our government and electoral college works you can't just start a party and hope to have primaries. The only way it realistically works is if a candidate who doesn't get the nomination for their party breaks off and forms their own party (like Ron Paul was threatening). And then you split that party's votes and they lose. It isn't rocket science. That's why no one does it. It's far easier to clean house. I know it sounds great but it isn't realistic.

[talisman]

same reason they engage with us and us them. because what else are we gonna do?

I'd rather watch paint dry than read his idiotic ramblings that have no basis in reality.

[4eyedwillie]

I'd rather watch paint dry than read his idiotic ramblings that have no basis in reality.

That's simple to fix parts boy, put me on ignore and you won't have to read it.

[talisman]

That's simple to fix parts boy, put me on ignore and you won't have to read it.

I've never put any one on ignore and you certainly are not even close to being special enough to receive the honor.

[4eyedwillie]

I've never put any one on ignore and you certainly are not even close to being special enough to receive the honor.

cool whatcha bitching about then? You got a way to avoid it so it's on you

[talisman]

cool whatcha bitching about then? You got a way to avoid it so it's on you

The amount of trouble you have with simple concepts is incredible.

[4eyedwillie]

That's what everyone said every time it has been tried. The way our government and electoral college works you can't just start a party and hope to have primaries. The only way it realistically works is if a candidate who doesn't get the nomination for their party breaks off and forms their own party (like Ron Paul was threatening). And then you split that party's votes and they lose. It isn't rocket science. That's why no one does it. It's far easier to clean house. I know it sounds great but it isn't realistic.

The right person with the right message could do it. There are alot of people fed up with the status quo. If it wasn't possible there would never be independent candidates. Likely no but it is possible.

[4eyedwillie]

The amount of trouble you have with simple concepts is incredible.

What simple concept? That your a whinny jackass? I got that

[CJ]

The right person with the right message could do it. There are alot of people fed up with the status quo. If it wasn't possible there would never be independent candidates. Likely no but it is possible.

It isn't possible, that's why no independent candidate as EVER won in the history of this country. I know it sounds great, but it doesn't work. There are other parties - libertarian, green party, etc.. none of them get any more than 1-5% of the vote, completely irrelevant.

[talisman]

It isn't possible, that's why no independent candidate as EVER won in the history of this country. I know it sounds great, but it doesn't work.

I might do some painting later. Want to come watch?

[BMCSean]

What simple concept? That your a whinny jackass? I got that

You're

[CJ]

I might do some painting later. Want to come watch?

I think this thread has drained the life out of me.

[4eyedwillie]

It isn't possible, that's why no independent candidate as EVER won in the history of this country. I know it sounds great, but it doesn't work.

So it's ok just to knuckle under and be satisfied with the status quo? Both parties are alienating voters, the Repubs more than Dems but if that trend continues there will be a real opening for another party. Maybe it's a pipedream but I can hope.