mental illness

[Jester]

[2011GT]

That was a good read and I agree.

[Wicked98Snake]

That is truly a sad situation. I don't know how I would react if my child acted like that.

[mikec]

Very well written piece.

And as long as there is no "business" or money to be made, there will be no mental health institutions. Hospitals want to sell band aids for illnesses, stuff like x rays, and MRIs and flu shots that they can fleece the insurance companies on. They have no desire to actually help the populace, they want the money generated by the illusion of helping...

[Captain Crawfish]

good article.

[ELVIS]

leaves me wondering where this boys father is, and how many full on, 5 star ass spankings he received when he was a child when he was bad.

edit: in light of the recent situation i certainly do not mean to make light, nor discount the realness that is mental illness. that was just the first thing that popped into my head and i believe it is a valid question.

god bless.

[KBScobravert]

I read that the other day in an article I found on line. A very well written article. Every parents worst nightmare really. But I can tell you though. If I thought for a second that my daughter had social/mental problems, she would not have access to any of my firearms. Hell she won't anyway but I damn sure am not going to let her have the combo to the safe if I know she is bat shit crazy. That has got to be where Lanza went wrong.

[Roscoe]

Damn, I was just coming to post this as well. Great article.

[Snatch Napkin]

Damn that would suck to be in her shoes.

[ceyko]

Do mental hospitals help, or is it just another type of prison?

[SVT Lurch]

Do mental hospitals help, or is it just another type of prison?

They help, at least in my personal experience (although the case was much less severe than the article describes). It takes years and Choo Choo $$$ though...there's no such thing as a quick fix.

[Jester]

leaves me wondering where this boys father is, and how many full on, 5 star ass spankings he received when he was a child when he was bad.

edit: in light of the recent situation i certainly do not mean to make light, nor discount the realness that is mental illness. that was just the first thing that popped into my head and i believe it is a valid question.

god bless.

You aren't alone, i wondered the same thing.

[Jester]

Do mental hospitals help, or is it just another type of prison?

they help very much as long as they get you on the right meds. it is very hard to diagnose someone and get them stable and then get them to always be disciplined enough to take their meds..........and it is expensive.
It is not a prison at all like in the movies unless you are criminally insane.

[kingjason]

leaves me wondering where this boys father is, and how many full on, 5 star ass spankings he received when he was a child when he was bad.

edit: in light of the recent situation i certainly do not mean to make light, nor discount the realness that is mental illness. that was just the first thing that popped into my head and i believe it is a valid question.

god bless.

They help, at least in my personal experience (although the case was much less severe than the article describes). It takes years and Choo Choo $$$ though...there's no such thing as a quick fix.

they help very much as long as they get you on the right meds. it is very hard to diagnose someone and get them stable and then get them to always be disciplined enough to take their meds..........and it is expensive.
It is not a prison at all like in the movies unless you are criminally insane.

I read the article and it is pretty good. You are spot on in thinking about the enviornment these kids were raised in, in some cases.

From a lowly law enforcement opinion I believe there are three or so way different scenarios on this whole mental illness issue. First is lack of discipline in this whole time out society. A lot of these little bad asses grow up in a single parent home, watching all this violence on TV, playing games like GTA, and just think this is the way shit is. With no true role model but other little bad ass kids what do you think is going to happen. I go to a lot of homes where the kid is diagnosed with Bi-Polar and it is more than likely bad parenting. To me that diagnosis is just a fucking cover all crutch. We actually had a woman call in the other day because a lady was whipping her kid in public. She was spanking the kid on his ass with her hand about five times. The woman that called in said that “She has had classes and that was against the law”. What the mother fuck are we teaching parents now days?

Second are the kids that really are bi-polar, kids that from an early age snap for no reason and no one knows why. I am talking kids from a very young age that have had discipline, good parenting, and for no reason they just snap. We dealt with a four year old that these people where trying to adopt a few years back. They had pulled off because their child was biting, kicking, and punching them, and trying to jump out of the car. Now who knows what happened to this kid between birth and three but I could go with him being bi-polar. Seat belted him in the squad, with no cuffs, and he was a totally different kid. Like nothing had happened that day. Hell the dad was sitting on him when I showed up and he was screaming. He had been in and out of medical facilities but even on meds he was un-stable. They drove a very nice car, they seemed very put together, and came across as overall good parents. They were trying to adopt three that could not be split up and the other two were little angels. Even though they knew the third was going to be very trying they were still on board with adopting all three.

Third would be the drug induced kids that act out. Wet, PCP, hell even marijuana makes some of them change over the years. They become paranoid, with drawn, and the think the world is out to get them. They think it is everything but the drugs. Hell even some alcoholics change over the years. Some people just react differently to different stimulants then others. The first and the third group make me the most nervous. You take them in, they talk to them for a few hours, then put them right back out. We have a couple in the last group that we know will either kill someone one day or will go suicide by cop. Mom calls, we get them in the car after a fight, and all the way to the hospital they talk about killing cops, or others. They were minding their own business and we just want to put them away.

Without opening up more state hospitals and committing people to them for life, what is the solution? Not to mention the total change in attitude some of these folks portray after they get to where they are going. There are a lot more scenarios then I have mentioned but these are the three I deal with the most. Hell some kids are passed around thru the system so much there is no surprise they are fucked up. Just like SVT said, if you got big money you can get quality treatment for them, if not, they just fall thru the cracks. Unfortunately most people do not have this kind of money and just want someone else to deal with their problem. Also on the other hand I believe that they prescribe out meds to early and too easily to kids these days, vs. just good discipline. No telling the long term effects of some of that shit.