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  • Originally posted by Alex View Post
    The 2nd ammendment is over 200 years old and is out dated severely. The most powerful gun at the time was what, a musket? Thats a far cry from an assault rifle which you dont need.


    The first ammendment is over 200 years old and is outdated severly. The most powerful means of communicaiton at the time were what, the printing press, mail delivered by horse, and bills nailed to trees in the town square? That's a far cry from the internet, TV, phones, texting, etc which you don't need.





    See how that works?

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    • Originally posted by Alex View Post
      The 2nd ammendment is over 200 years old and is out dated severely.
      Based on your logic (or lack thereof) the 1st Amendment is also "out dated severely." That's the Amendment that gives you the right to get on here and espouse your half-brained logic/theories/pontifications. Be careful what you ask for Einstein.

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      • Originally posted by Alex View Post
        The 2nd ammendment is over 200 years old and is out dated severely. The most powerful gun at the time was what, a musket? Thats a far cry from an assault rifle which you dont need.
        Don't forget they had cannons too. Yes the people had cannons just like the govt. That way if the govt got out of hand the people could take back the country, just like they took it from England.
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        • Originally posted by Alex View Post
          The most powerful gun at the time was what, a musket?
          Lol.
          Originally posted by lincolnboy
          After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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          • Originally posted by Alex View Post
            The 2nd ammendment is over 200 years old and is out dated severely. The most powerful gun at the time was what, a musket? Thats a far cry from an assault rifle which you dont need.
            Actually, that'd be a cannon. The government also only had cannon and musket. So government and the people were on the same level. Would you like Jefferson or Washington's thoughts on gun control? Tell you what, let's make it easy. Which Founder would you like smacked with?

            And the Constitution IS over 200 years old. That means your freedom of speech and from self incrimination is outdated as well right?
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            • Originally posted by Alex View Post
              The 2nd ammendment is over 200 years old and is out dated severely. The most powerful gun at the time was what, a musket? Thats a far cry from an assault rifle which you dont need.
              BAN MUSKETS!!!!!!!!!!!

              This took place in the 1700's.



              BTW, the shooter at Virginia Tech had two handguns. Not assault rifles. Assault Rifles aren't the problem. People are the problem. Stop blaming shit that's not the problem, retard.
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              • Originally posted by Alex View Post
                The 2nd ammendment is over 200 years old and is out dated severely. The most powerful gun at the time was what, a musket? Thats a far cry from an assault rifle which you dont need.


                District of Columbia v. Heller

                The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
                The prefatory clause comports with the Court’s interpretation of the operative clause. The “militia” comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens’ militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, so that the ideal of a citizens’ militia would be preserved.


                In fact US v. Miller (1939) said that a sawed off shotgun was not a weapon for everyone to have because it was not "ordinary military equipement" and would not be regularly used for the "common defense." By that logic the AR-15 platform should be protected first and foremost.



                Thus, for the keeping and bearing of a firearm to be constitutionally protected, the firearm should be a militia-type arm

                the militia consisted of "all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense" and that "when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time
                According to Art. I, Sec. 8, cl. 15 of the Constitution, the functions of the militia are: "to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections, and repel Invasions...." Thus, the militia has a law enforcement function, a quasi law enforcement/quasi military function, and a military function. As a result, those firearms which are "arms" within the meaning of the Second Amendment are those which could be used to fulfill any of these functions.


                I suspect you zoned out around the second quote block though...

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                • .223 > 911

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                  • Has to be massive troll job. No one is this stupid.

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                    • Originally posted by jdgregory84 View Post
                      BTW, the shooter at Virginia Tech had two handguns. Not assault rifles. Assault Rifles aren't the problem. People are the problem. Stop blaming shit that's not the problem, retard.
                      He had a hammer too. Need to ban those.

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                      • Originally posted by Shorty View Post
                        He had a hammer too. Need to ban those.
                        Oh don't get me started on fucking hammers. Nothing but rubber mallets in my household.
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                        • Then you have the militia act of 1793 that REQUIRED people to not only own weapons but also ammo AND TRAIN with them on their own time. I don't think it's ever been repealed. If you're not armed and trained, you're in violation of the law.

                          The Militia Act of 1792, Passed May 8, 1792, providing federal standards for the organization of the Militia.

                          An ACT more effectually to provide for the National Defence, by establishing an Uniform Militia throughout the United States.

                          I. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia, by the Captain or Commanding Officer of the company, within whose bounds such citizen shall reside, and that within twelve months after the passing of this Act. And it shall at all time hereafter be the duty of every such Captain or Commanding Officer of a company, to enroll every such citizen as aforesaid, and also those who shall, from time to time, arrive at the age of 18 years, or being at the age of 18 years, and under the age of 45 years (except as before excepted) shall come to reside within his bounds; and shall without delay notify such citizen of the said enrollment, by the proper non-commissioned Officer of the company, by whom such notice may be proved. That every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball; or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch, and powder-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a pound of powder; and shall appear so armed, accoutred and provided, when called out to exercise or into service, except, that when called out on company days to exercise only, he may appear without a knapsack. That the commissioned Officers shall severally be armed with a sword or hanger, and espontoon; and that from and after five years from the passing of this Act, all muskets from arming the militia as is herein required, shall be of bores sufficient for balls of the eighteenth part of a pound; and every citizen so enrolled, and providing himself with the arms, ammunition and accoutrements, required as aforesaid, shall hold the same exempted from all suits, distresses, executions or sales, for debt or for the payment of taxes.
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                          • Originally posted by Alex View Post
                            The 2nd ammendment is over 200 years old and is out dated severely. The most powerful gun at the time was what, a musket? Thats a far cry from an assault rifle which you dont need.

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                            • Originally posted by DON SVO View Post
                              I prefer doing it in a sober frenzy... Then blaming Drunk Evil Jose!
                              I miss the days!
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                              • Originally posted by talisman View Post
                                Has to be massive troll job. No one is this stupid.
                                I was thinking the same, but then I realized that I'm not certain I agree with the latter.

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