Horrrible!! Must ban trains!

[diablo rojo]

The guy that took the pictures was a professional photographer and was using the flash to warn the train engineer. The pictures were a byproduct.

Again, if he'd actually read the full article he might have caught that.

[DON SVO]

Again, if he'd actually read the full article he might have caught that.

Well is it SS Junk, he's notorious for BASE jumping to conclusions.

[SS Junk]

Stop being so dramatic, Frodo. I did read the article and I stand by what I said earlier. People are too afraid to get involved. I was not referencing just the photographer it was a generalized statement whenever things like this happen. Everyone screams at others to do something while they sit there and do nothing.

[DON SVO]

Stop being so dramatic, Frodo. I did read the article and I stand by what I said earlier. People are too afraid to get involved. I was not referencing just the photographer it was a generalized statement whenever things like this happen. Everyone screams at others to do something while they sit there and do nothing.

I want to be like you!!! I want to be dramatic and zany! It's so cool!

This whole story sucks, BTW. Sad sad thing.

[SS Junk]

New footage has surfaced where there's several people standing around watching the confrontation with their thumbs up their asses just before the guy is pushed. Fuck society.

[CJ]

I also questioned why no one came to help the guy. If the train is approaching the station, I can't imagine it was moving very quickly. But, it could have been passing through which I think at least give some explanation. All the poor guy needed was a hand. But, we can all be couch heros, who knows the situation.

[DON SVO]

I also questioned why no one came to help the guy. If the train is approaching the station, I can't imagine it was moving very quickly. But, it could have been passing through which I think at least give some explanation. All the poor guy needed was a hand. But, we can all be couch heros, who knows the situation.

They said in one article he (guy who died) was drunk, which might have slowed his reaction time considerably.

[SS Junk]

I also questioned why no one came to help the guy. If the train is approaching the station, I can't imagine it was moving very quickly. But, it could have been passing through which I think at least give some explanation. All the poor guy needed was a hand. But, we can all be couch heros, who knows the situation.

I understand that. I would like to think I'd try to do something, but I honestly have no idea. With the way the article was written there was quite a bit of time before he was hit. I mean it's New York. I thought that place was full of bad motherfuckers.

[CJ]

They said in one article he (guy who died) was drunk, which might have slowed his reaction time considerably.

I must have missed that, I skimmed the article yesterday.

I understand that. I would like to think I'd try to do something, but I honestly have no idea. With the way the article was written there was quite a bit of time before he was hit. I mean it's New York. I thought that place was full of bad motherfuckers.

They're such badasses they don't have time to save lives. There are more pressing things to do.

[Geor!]

The killer was black. I think it's the blacks we must ban!!!

[Jimbo]

That is absolutely terrible.

The killer was black. I think it's the blacks we must ban!!!

No, no, we all know that if it weren't for that evil train, that man would still be alive.

[SS Junk]

From different articles now there was an alleged 22 seconds from the time he was thrown to the time he was hit. Of course no one was around for that, but once the train stopped it's been said that everyone was crowding around with their camera phones.

[CJ]

From different articles now there was an alleged 22 seconds from the time he was thrown to the time he was hit. Of course no one was around for that, but once the train stopped it's been said that everyone was crowding around with their camera phones.

You have got to be shitting me.

[talisman]

I'd have NO desire to take a picture of that. SMH.

[SS Junk]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/05/photographer-in-nyc-subway-push-says-critics-are-unfair/

Photographer in NYC subway push says critics are unfair

Published December 05, 2012

New York Post

Post freelance photographer R. Umar Abbasi captured the dramatic moments before Ki Suk Han was struck by a downtown Q train. A day after the pictures were published, a flurry of criticism erupted — from other media and over social media like Twitter. He recounted the ordeal to The Post yesterday:

I was on an assignment, waiting for a train at the 49th Street subway platform, when I suddenly heard people gasping.

The announcement had come over the loudspeaker that the train was coming — and out of the periphery of my eye, I saw a body flying through the air and onto the track.

I just started running. I had my camera up — it wasn’t even set to the right settings — and I just kept shooting and flashing, hoping the train driver would see something and be able to stop.

I had no idea what I was shooting. I’m not even sure it was registering with me what was happening. I was just looking at that train coming.

It all went so quickly; from the time I heard the shouting until the time the train hit the man was about 22 seconds.

At the same time, the perp was running toward me. I was afraid he might push me onto the tracks.

The victim was so far away from me, I was already too far away to reach him when I started running.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/05...#ixzz2ECSzsLfq

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/anguished_fotog_critics_are_unfair_s4bWwIXfZlBR6wi2tQALyH

Anguished fotog: Critics are unfair to condemn me

By R. UMAR ABBASI
Last Updated: 11:29 AM, December 5, 2012
Posted: 12:39 AM, December 5, 2012

R. Umar Abbasi

Ki Suk Han, 58, of Queens frantically tries to climb to safety yesterday as a train bears down on him in Midtown. He was fatally struck seconds later.

Post freelance photographer R. Umar Abbasi captured the dramatic moments before Ki Suk Han was struck by a downtown Q train. A day after the pictures were published, a flurry of criticism erupted — from other media and over social media like Twitter. He recounted the or deal to The Post yesterday:

I was on an assignment, waiting for a train at the 49th Street subway platform, when I suddenly heard people gasping.
David McGlynn
'TOO FAR AWAY TO HELP': A day after snapping the slaying of a man pushed onto the tracks, photagrapher R. Umar Abbasi returns to the scene.

The announcement had come over the loudspeaker that the train was coming — and out of the periphery of my eye, I saw a body flying through the air and onto the track.

I just started running. I had my camera up — it wasn’t even set to the right settings — and I just kept shooting and flashing, hoping the train driver would see something and be able to stop.

I had no idea what I was shooting. I’m not even sure it was registering with me what was happening. I was just looking at that train coming.

It all went so quickly; from the time I heard the shouting until the time the train hit the man was about 22 seconds.

At the same time, the perp was running toward me. I was afraid he might push me onto the tracks.

The victim was so far away from me, I was already too far away to reach him when I started running.

The train hit the man before I could get to him, and nobody closer tried to pull him out.


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What keeps playing over in my mind, what haunts me when I think back on it, is that the man did not scream at all.

I didn’t hear the man cry for help.

And then I was standing there, with this poor man, twisted like a rag doll, and it was so painfully hopeless.

A young doctor named Laura Kaplan came immediately. She was so brave, the way she remained calm. She asked if anyone knew CPR, and there was a man who kneeled down next to her who said, “I don’t know how to do it, but I will try if you tell me.”

And they just kept trying, even though there was no hope.

Then a crowd came over with camera phones and they were pushing and shoving, trying to look at the man and taking videos.

I was screaming at them to get back, so the doctor could have room because they were closing in on her; she thanked me.

I remember telling a woman — whom I later learned was the MTA chaplain — to give the man his last rites.

It was one of the most horrible things I have ever seen, to watch that man dying there.

When it was over, I didn’t look at the pictures.

I didn’t even know at all that I had even captured the images in such detail. I didn’t look at them. I didn’t want to.

It was just too emotional a day.

I brought the camera memory card back to the office and turned it in. Two detectives came and looked at the photos and I just sat in a chair.

When I finally looked at them late that night, my heart started racing. It was terrible, seeing it happen all over again.

I didn’t sleep at all.

All I can hear is that man’s head against that train: Boom! Boom! Boom!

I have to say I was surprised at the anger over the pictures, of the people who are saying: Why didn’t he put the camera down and pull him out?

But I can’t let the armchair critics bother me. They were not there. They have no idea how very quickly it happened.

They do not know what they would have done.

Before I went into the subway, I had been up in Times Square, and my camera was still set for outside lighting. The flash was on 1/64th of a second, which would be split-second recharging.

People think I had time to set the camera and take photos, and that isn’t the case. I just ran toward that train.

The sad part is, there were people who were close to the victim, who watched and didn’t do anything. You can see it in the pictures.

The truth is I could not reach that man; if I could have, I would have.

But the train was moving faster than I could get there.