Farewell America

[jw33]

what a ridiculous over reaction. instead of just abandoning the country, why dont you get into politics, run for office, and/or try changing something or doing something about it. The grass is never greener on the otherside. Not sure how old you are, but from what everybody else says and calling you a stupid kid, you need to really think about things with a level responsible adult brain or have a real sit down with somebody that has one.

Wasn't going to waste my time to type this reply, but you are exactly right. Get involved, at any level, into a political party. You will start to feel better. 2014 is right around the corner.

[Binky]

You can't "fix" stupid. And since the majority of the country has shifted from a self-reliance and personal responsibility mentality to "the government should provide for me", there isnt any amount of "getting involved" thats going to change anything.

The deck is stacked and its too late in the game. Society is too polarized in the extremes. There was a time where being a Republican or Democrat wasnt a big deal. Its now come to the point of hatred. It doesnt matter that the majority of the country is in the middle politically - those who represent us fall prey to the extremes, the religious right or the liberal left. And they are entrenched, squared off and focused 100% on themselves, country be damned.

How as a citizen of Texas can I have Diane Feinstein removed from office? Or the wacked out Michele Bachmann from Minnesota? You cant - they've elected their reps. All you can do is vote for your Rep and Senator, and they are going to be just play the same political game as the rest.

The country is run, ruled and controlled by special interest groups. And unless youve got the $$$ to fund a competing group, you are SOL.

I'm not going to leave, i'm not even going to disparage anyone who feels like thats the best option for them. I've just accepted that there is very little power in my hands beyond voting for 3 people to represent my ideals in the federal govt (house, senate and president). Thats it. Take up arms against the govt? Dont be stupid. i would rather while away my days as an old poor man than commit suicide by trying to overthrow the govt.

[Chili]

When the fuck did we give fags the right to state their opinions on this board?

Mar 2005 apparently.

[Baron Von Crowder]

You can't "fix" stupid. And since the majority of the country has shifted from a self-reliance and personal responsibility mentality to "the government should provide for me", there isnt any amount of "getting involved" thats going to change anything.

The deck is stacked and its too late in the game. Society is too polarized in the extremes. There was a time where being a Republican or Democrat wasnt a big deal. Its now come to the point of hatred. It doesnt matter that the majority of the country is in the middle politically - those who represent us fall prey to the extremes, the religious right or the liberal left. And they are entrenched, squared off and focused 100% on themselves, country be damned.

How as a citizen of Texas can I have Diane Feinstein removed from office? Or the wacked out Michele Bachmann from Minnesota? You cant - they've elected their reps. All you can do is vote for your Rep and Senator, and they are going to be just play the same political game as the rest.

The country is run, ruled and controlled by special interest groups. And unless youve got the $$$ to fund a competing group, you are SOL.

I'm not going to leave, i'm not even going to disparage anyone who feels like thats the best option for them. I've just accepted that there is very little power in my hands beyond voting for 3 people to represent my ideals in the federal govt (house, senate and president). Thats it. Take up arms against the govt? Dont be stupid. i would rather while away my days as an old poor man than commit suicide by trying to overthrow the govt.

Very well put.

[Chili]

I grew up poor. I've worked my ass off only to realize that the harder I work the more I have to give to lazy scrubs that now make up the majority. I've also gotten to see my dollar worth less.

Your opinion didn't make this country...your government did. Again what are you doing to help?

I didn't say my opinion made this country, I say my type of opinion. I'm not Talisman, I know I don't control shit.

[46Tbird]

My opinion is the the type that made this country. Yours is the type that is destroying it.

Just a question. Do you think the middle class in this country (read that as: people that go to work every day) will become more or less prosperous in your lifetime?

[jluv]

Oh no! The sky is falling! It's too late! We're all doomed!

LOL. This board cracks me up.

[UserX]

Good quitter, gtfo.

My loyalty to myself, wife and the best interest of my family exceeds my loyalty to an out of control government. Sorry if that offends you.

[Chili]

Just a question. Do you think the middle class in this country (read that as: people that go to work every day) will become more or less prosperous in your lifetime?

Hell if I know man, but wouldn't be suprised if it's less.

[Chili]

My loyalty to myself, wife and the best interest of my family exceeds my loyalty to an out of control government. Sorry if that offends you.

I was mostly joking when I said that, just fyi.. No intent to offend you either.

[Baron Von Crowder]

Hell if I know man, but wouldn't be suprised if it's less.

What if I was to call you selfish for not considering moving out of the country for your kids sake?

[jluv]

Hell if I know man, but wouldn't be suprised if it's less.

What do you mean you don't know? Is your board-issued crystal ball of doom broken, or did you leave it somewhere? Can you not draw from your personal experiences of going through the collapse of a giant nation in this modern world, just like the rest of the members here? And heck, if you're not sure, fake it. When in doubt, just believe that the only possible outcome is the one with the most doom and gloom. That's the way we roll.

But heck, it really doesn't matter what you know or do. It's already too late! You might as well bail, too. Just about any country is better than this one, right?

[Chili]

BTW, to DOCHTR - I apologize for being so harsh. Most of what I was pontificating about wasn't even necessarily directed at you personally. Hell, I don't even know you.

In reality it was pretty unfair to make some of the jabs at your expense.

Sorry to anyone else I may have offended too, didn't really mean anything personal.

As I said earlier, probably am just on the rag..

[Mike]

Mar 2005 apparently.

Nicely done, sir.

[Chili]

What if I was to call you selfish for not considering moving out of the country for your kids sake?

I would say worry about your own kids.