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    A debt collector, angered that a disabled US Army veteran was living off of disability payments, told him he “should have died” in war instead of "taking advantage of" other Americans.

    *Minnesota-based debt collection agency Gurstel Chargo is now facing a lawsuit for verbally abusing the Army vet over a $6,000 defaulted student loan, Courthouse News reports.

    “If you would have served our country better you would not be a disabled veteran living off Social Security while the rest of us honest Americans work our asses off,” one of the agency’s debt collectors allegedly told the vet. “Too bad, you should have died.”

    Michael Collier was declared 100 per cent disabled after suffering permanent spine and head injuries while in the Army. As a result, both Collier and his wife receive disability payments from the federal Social Security Administration, which are exempt from seizure by debt collectors.

    But in an attempt to collect on the defaulted student loan, the collector seized the money from Collier's wife’s savings account. The credit union then proceeded to freeze her account.

    The Colliers filed an objection and requested a court hearing, at which the couple was told their frozen funds were exempt from such garnishment.

    But the debt collection agency’s lawyer continued to harass the couple. Telling Collier “he would need to get a lawyer in order to get his money back,” an unidentified paralegal cursed at and threatened him over the phone.

    “F--k you!” the paralegal allegedly said, “Pay us your money! You can’t afford an attorney. You owe us. I hope your wife divorces you.”

    The couple is now seeking compensation for actual damages, statutory damages, and punitive damages for violations of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA), privacy invasion, malicious infliction of emotional distress and conversion.

    The FDCPA considers it abusive for a debt collector to make empty threats, misrepresent the legal status of a debt, or use obscene of profane language.

    According to the Daily Beast, debt collectors sometimes use abusive techniques to pry money from the indebted because of the commission rates they receive. On average, debt collectors make 20 cents for every dollar recouped. At this rate, the Colliers’ debt would be worth $1,200 to Chargo.

    Verbal harassment is a commonly-used technique to instigate debtors into making payments. In 2010, the Federal Trade Commission received 50,000 complaints about severe harassment from debt collectors, 18,000 of which included the use of obscene language.

    And some say that number is low.

    “That’s just the tip of the iceberg, as far as I’m concerned,” attorney Sergei Lemberg told the Daily Beast.

    While Chargo's berating took it too far for the Colliers, there are of thousands of cases of abuse that never make it to court.

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    • #3
      I'm betting on a fairly large out of court settlement. I'm not seeing the bill collectors getting a jury sympathetic to them
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      • #4
        Those motherfuckers need to sleep through a house fire. That shit boils my blood.
        ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
          A debt collector, angered that a disabled US Army veteran was living off of disability payments, told him he “should have died” in war instead of "taking advantage of" other Americans.

          “If you would have served our country better you would not be a disabled veteran living off Social Security while the rest of us honest Americans work our asses off,” one of the agency’s debt collectors allegedly told the vet. “Too bad, you should have died.”



          “F--k you!” the paralegal allegedly said, “Pay us your money! You can’t afford an attorney. You owe us. I hope your wife divorces you.”
          Yeah? Since when is it okay to talk to someone like this? These people need to be fired, asap. They also need their teeth kicked in.

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          • #6
            Debt collectors are the lowest scum of the earth. They will do or say anything they can to get what they want. There are laws to prevent it, but most people dont know the system and protections they have and these parasites take advantage of it.

            And LMAO at their webpage quoting Reagan "if you cant make the see the light, make them feel the heat". Yeah, thats gonna go over well.

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            • #7
              Typical scavenger debt collector nonsense. You guys would be shocked at how often shit like this happens, even more so at how often it unfortunately works.

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              • #8
                But it's his job to not to care about the 47% whose government benefits exceed the taxes they pay......Oh that's Mitt Romney, my bad.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by white trash wagon View Post
                  But it's his job to not to care about the 47% whose government benefits exceed the taxes they pay......Oh that's Mitt Romney, my bad.
                  Unless he was white, in which point Obama said he's not worried about them

                  Surveying the plans of Democratic strategists, Edsall wrote in The New York Times [NYT] on Nov. 28 that “all pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned.”

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Yale View Post
                    Those motherfuckers need to sleep through a house fire. That shit boils my blood.
                    I love it.
                    Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by white trash wagon View Post
                      But it's his job to not to care about the 47% whose government benefits exceed the taxes they pay......Oh that's Mitt Romney, my bad.
                      Don't waste your time these one way fucks will never see the hypocracy.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                        Unless he was white, in which point Obama said he's not worried about them

                        Surveying the plans of Democratic strategists, Edsall wrote in The New York Times [NYT] on Nov. 28 that “all pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned.”

                        http://bostonherald.com/news/opinion...in_obamas_base
                        In fairness, I'm confident that Obama dislikes all Veterans regardless of race. Especially modern Vets...
                        Originally posted by MR EDD
                        U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                        • #13
                          Why does anyone give any debt collector the time of day?

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                          • #14
                            Fear.

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                            • #15
                              I had a debt collector call me a few months ago for a something they said I owed Charter Cable from six years ago. I didn't owe shit, and knew it, and they verbally threatened me. They said something along the lines of, "If you don't pay this debt, the rest of your life will be ruined, and if not by your credit score then by one of our employees." I told them that they were welcome to try and make my life miserable after I disputed the debt and got it wiped off my credit report, but that I didn't take kindly to verbal threats and that if I heard from them again I would involve the authorities. Haven't heard from them since. These people think that with harsh words they can scare people into giving them money, whether or not the debt is real. Fuck them.

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