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  • Buying & financing a house nowadays: HUGE pain in the ass.

    Sold my old house in May, that was a year long PITA. First agent couldn't sell cold beer in July, second agent could sell, but fucked all the paperwork - repeatedly.

    Moved in with my GF, we start looking a house together. We encountered agents who were primadonnas, that didn't submit our offers to the seller, who advised sellers to not make any repairs, and who refused to shows us houses, and in one case steered the seller to a LOWER offer, that later failed to get fiananced. 3 failed contracts, due to the above.

    We finally get a good contract on a house we really like for $250K. Credit scores for both of us between 750 and 830, combined income $150K, combined assets of twice the value of the house, no debts at ALL, 20% down on a conventional loan. Walk in the park, right?

    WRONG !!! We scan & email 150 pages of information, we have to prove we have the stated assests, we have to prove where got the assets, we have to prove we have 401K's, etc. The we have to scan & email another 60 pages of documents....then they hang up the approval over a disputed $20 phone bill from 5 years ago. The bill was paid, but disputed. They got that cleared off, but it takes 30 days to cycle off the credit report.

    They had to resubmit to a different underwriter, as the first one refused to underwrite with any disputes on the report, even with the ltter saying it was going to be removed.

    We're finally going to close next week, after 45 days of BS.

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    dude, sounds like you got a bad company or the credit issue, score is important but anything disputed = bad bad things to them.
    We bought last year and close on our refi friday. 2 weeks check stubs, and 2 months bank statements, and that was it for us

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    • #3
      Originally posted by zachary View Post
      dude, sounds like you got a bad company or the credit issue, score is important but anything disputed = bad bad things to them.
      We bought last year and close on our refi friday. 2 weeks check stubs, and 2 months bank statements, and that was it for us
      They said all the proving of assets was due to Homeland security,and the Patriot Act - it's Federal law. It seems this is due to terrorists & drug dealers buying houses for their operations.

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      • #4
        Let me guess ..

        Its Wells Fargo

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Big Dad View Post
          Let me guess ..

          Its Wells Fargo
          Probably fucking BofA

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          • #6
            Originally posted by white trash wagon View Post
            They said all the proving of assets was due to Homeland security,and the Patriot Act - it's Federal law. It seems this is due to terrorists & drug dealers buying houses for their operations.
            weird, we did not have to do any of this. Federal Law = tight hole banker

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Big Dad View Post
              Let me guess ..

              Its Wells Fargo
              Nope! And the standard information requested the the beginning was: 3 months of paycheck stubs, 3 months of bank statements, 401K statements, investments statments, copies of divorce settlements ( 7 years ago for her, 4 years ago for me), tax returns for the last 3 years, closing statement on the sale off my house, driver licenses, SS cards....and lots more!

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              • #8
                Screw that. Just pay cash!
                Ford
                GM
                Toyota
                VAG

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                • #9
                  About to close on a refi in a week and a half. All that was requested was 2 pay check stubs, one months bank statements, and w-2's from last year.

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                  • #10
                    Maybe that's the banks way of disapproving of you and your GF shacking up together. I'm sure they've seen thousands of people like yall split up and the house gets forclosed on. Like my daddy always said. Only buy what you can afford and not what yall can afford. Call me crazy, but I'd never buy a house with a GF. I don't care if the wedding was planned for the week after we close.

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                    • #11
                      You have to verify whatever you list on the application. If you are a w2 employee you really only need:
                      • Pay stubs covering 30 days
                      • Two months of bank statements to source down payment
                      • If an item is in dispute it MUST be cleared. This can happen in 7 days


                      If you got divorced, need a copy of the decree.
                      If commission or self employed then you need two years of tax returns.

                      Sounds like you listed too much which then had to be verified. The only new thing in the last 4 years is the dispute thing.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by quikag View Post
                        Screw that. Just pay cash!
                        It's almost easier

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                        • #13
                          [QUOTE=FreightTrain;841310]About to close on a refi in a week and a half. All that was requested was 2 pay check stubs, one months bank statements, and w-2's from last year.[/QUOTE

                          A refi is a whole different animal than a new purchase. I read an article the other day on MSN.com stating that nationwide, mortgages were taking 60 days on average.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by FreightTrain View Post
                            About to close on a refi in a week and a half. All that was requested was 2 pay check stubs, one months bank statements, and w-2's from last year.
                            Totally different animal. You're already in the house. Usually, your payment drops, unless going to a 15 year note from a 30. It's a no-brainer.

                            Along with these phenomenally low rates, comes a very stringent criteria. With rates this low, they won't take risks' that they would 5 years ago.

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                            • #15
                              Here it is boys & girls

                              Why you can't get a mortgage

                              Standards are higher this year than last. Lenders are requiring credit scores too high for nearly 80% of the population, as well as hefty down payments.


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