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    Well this ain't good.


    Another day, another safety issue has American Airlines under the microscope because of a mid-flight maintenance scare when a plane's landing-gear jammed after take-off.

    Flight 1862 from Dallas to St. Louis had to return for an emergency landing 10 minutes into the flight Tuesday. The passengers were told to brace for a crash landing at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport.

    Jim Faulkner, an American Airlines spokesman, confirmed that he flight turned back to the airport without incident around 8:40 a.m. local time. Passengers were put on another plane to St. Louis.

    "When they said assume the position, it was scary," passenger Elaine Krieger said.

    As passengers reflected on the incident, some were left to wonder whether the landing-gear concern was real, well aware of the airline's recent trouble with labor.

    "Some people are cheering as we landed, and the rest of us are thinking, 'Is this a scenario they created, or was it real?'" passenger Jeff Estes said. "Are they really heroes, or are they guys just creating a job action?"

    After a tumultuous week of seats' becoming loose, flipping over in mid-flight in one case, American Airlines has announced that it will resume stalled contract negotiations with its pilots' union as early as today.

    The developments could lead to a breakthrough in a rocky standoff between the nation's third-largest carrier and its pilots. Thomas Horton, CEO of American parent AMR Corp., said Tuesday in a statement that he was pleased that "intensive bargaining" was scheduled to begin this week.

    "It has been a very challenging couple of weeks for our company. As you know, our operations have experienced significant disruption, affecting our customers, our people and our owners," Horton said.

    Nearly half of American Airlines' fleet of Boeing 757s -- 47 jets -- were taken out of service earlier this week to make sure that no more of its coach seats came loose in flight, as they now have three separate times. As of this morning, many of the planes are now back in service as the airline said the loose seats were a result of human or mechanical error and not sabotage.
    The airline said a saddle clamp was improperly installed on the planes where the seats disengaged. The latest reported incident of loose seats occurred on a flight from Vail, Colo., to Dallas Sept. 26, the New York Post reported Tuesday.

    Flight 443 from New York's John F. Kennedy Airport to Miami had to return to JFK Monday when the loose seats were discovered, the Federal Aviation Administration said in a statement.

    The earlier reported incident took place Saturday night when seats came unbolted on American Airlines Flight 685 from Boston to Miami. The flight was diverted and made an emergency landing at JFK.

    The FAA said in a statement Tuesday that it was looking into the first two incidents and that the airline's initial inspection of each aircraft had found other rows of seats that were not properly secured.

    "Preliminary information indicates that both aircraft had recently undergone maintenance during which the seats had been removed and re-installed," the FAA said.

    ABC News' Matt Hosford contributed to this report.

  • #2
    Probably left the gear pin in. idiots

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    • #3
      Must've forgotten their Cholula Hot Sauce
      Originally posted by Broncojohnny
      HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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      • #4
        Fire the union pilots and hire non unions pilots. Simple.
        I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
          Fire the union pilots and hire non unions pilots. Simple.
          Wow. That's about as ignorant as it gets. Let's pull the inexperienced puddle jumper pilots out of the small planes and put them in the wide bodies/bigger planes and see how that goes.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
            Fire the union pilots and hire non unions pilots. Simple.
            I guess no one has learned from the recent replacement ref's experience.

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            • #7
              Are you two saying there are no pilots who do not belong to a union, capable of flying these planes? Really?
              I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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              • #8
                I hope they get their shit together before my flight on October 20th!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by quikag View Post
                  Wow. That's about as ignorant as it gets. .
                  you'll get used to it
                  THE BAD HOMBRE

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                    Fire the union pilots and hire non unions pilots. Simple.
                    ...yea, because every random ass off the street can jump in and fly a jet plane full of 300+ people.
                    Corporate AA can go screw themselves
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                    Some dudes jump out of airplanes, I fuck hookers without condoms.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Barbie View Post
                      I hope they get their shit together before my flight on October 20th!
                      tits or gtfo
                      THE BAD HOMBRE

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                        Are you two saying there are no pilots who do not belong to a union, capable of flying these planes? Really?
                        I would say that with the mass quantities needed to fly that amount of flights.

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                        • #13
                          AA and their whole labor force is just suspicious. My brother use to be the director of ground maintenance at DFW for American Eagle. He told me all kinds of stories about the union mechanics being inept, and highly under skilled for their job types. Every time I talked to him he had something negative to say about the unions, and just how much trouble it creates for the company and the quality of work. He left AA and helped start an independent contractor which now won the bid w/ AA and has essentially replaced the unions to some capacity. Now he talks about how qualified everyone is, how much better run maintenance is, and how much quicker and cheaper things are running. Obviously we're not talking about pilots here, but as a whole my perception from what I've heard about the unions is a negative thing when it relates to AA.
                          "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                          "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                          • #14
                            I don't like unions in general, but AA Corporate is MUCH more to blame for this debacle than the pilots who voluntarily gave concessions to keep AA out of bankruptcy a few years ago, AA returns to profitability and all the AA Corporate types hooked themselves up with bonuses and all kind of incentives/compensation benefits, etc. What did the pilots get? Jack shit.

                            So, fast forward a few years to now and AA goes into bankruptcy. Gerald Arpey actually had a conscious and fought against the bankruptcy and actually quit when it was apparent AA was going to go ahead and file. So, now AA wants even more money and concessions from the pilots when they didn't have a damn thing to do with the company being run into the ground and even tried to help them with their initial voluntary concessions back a little more than 5 years ago.

                            AA Corporate is trying to strong arm the pilots through the bankruptcy courts and it's total BS. While hard to prove, it's obvious there is a percentage of pilots engaging in a slow down of sorts, but there is also a lot of real issues with the planes right now. AA is a cash and carry business now because their credit is shot. So, if they can cut corners, they will and airplane maintenance has suffered because of it. Pilots have complete control of the plane and if they are not comfortable with flying it due a maintenance issue, they can demand it be fixed before the leave. It's not going to be their bad decisions to fly a plane with airworthiness issues that gets hundreds of people killed.

                            The above are facts and not sensationalistic BS spewed out by people on Facebook, the media, car boards, etc.
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                            • #15
                              I really do not think every single pilot is in the union. I am sure there are some been flying for AA for years and never joined or left for their own reasons. That goes the same for the other airlines

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