Money follows good work. Not the other way around. I have never asked for a raise. They have always been given to me. I have worked at the same shop for the past 10 years and I make 5 times as much now as when I first started.
As a primer, I recently got a new gig and have been absolutely loving it, and kicking ass.But, judging by the amount of responsibilities I have, and the fact that the list keep growing greater and greater, taking on other peoples roles, it begs the question to look again at my compensation.
I've been kicking ass here, and I have tackled on several new projects, learned several new skills, and have even gotten us PO's...even though I'm technically "no longer in sales" ...which means i don't get compensated like our sales guys do..
You want a RAISE? Hell NO just be glad you have a job you ungrateful welch!! Your company GAVE you a job how dare you ask for a raise! You should be grateful they gave you one and turn in some of your salary so the boss can relax some more. He's smarter than you and he deserves it all.
Did I get that right?? Just checking, I wasn't sure.......
Money follows good work. Not the other way around. I have never asked for a raise. They have always been given to me. I have worked at the same shop for the past 10 years and I make 5 times as much now as when I first started.
TxDOT is the opposite. Money follows the lazy and half ass workers.
Always negotiate your wage up front. I know it's not very helpful in your situation but you have to fight your ass off up front. Once you're doing the job you're doing the job, your leverage is lost.
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
Always negotiate your wage up front. I know it's not very helpful in your situation but you have to fight your ass off up front. Once you're doing the job you're doing the job, your leverage is lost.
That's what I'm regretting CJ.
I mean I'm getting a nice sized bonus, but now that I'm doing some lead-to-close sales, its frustrating knowing I'm not getting any commission on these, and in my industry, the commissions are quite healthy.
I dont mind doing 3-4 peoples work...as long as I'm at least getting paid fairly for ONE of those jobs , heh!
Well, to be more fair, I dont mind doing the work as long as nothing slips by. Where i DONT want to be is be in a position where due to the overload of tasks something important gets left behind and the company suffers (as well as my performance ).
I mean I'm getting a nice sized bonus, but now that I'm doing some lead-to-close sales, its frustrating knowing I'm not getting any commission on these, and in my industry, the commissions are quite healthy.
I dont mind doing 3-4 peoples work...as long as I'm at least getting paid fairly for ONE of those jobs , heh!
Well, to be more fair, I dont mind doing the work as long as nothing slips by. Where i DONT want to be is be in a position where due to the overload of tasks something important gets left behind and the company suffers (as well as my performance ).
Let me know if you need any good methods when asking for a raise, I've got my own encyclopedia to justify them. But, you can't always regret that, because if it's a new position you had no experience in... how could you have? When you do a big position change or promotion they have you by the balls, expect to get fleeced because they are providing you with an opportunity, and like it or not you have to pay for that with lower pay. On your transfer is when you negotiate the bigger wages. They are investing in you also, and the payoff on the employers end with hiring within is less expense.
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
Just to set expectation, you may think you're doing the work of 3 or 4 people, and your boss may whole heartedly agree, but that's not worth a whole lot if it's a larger company.
What I mean by that Ryan, is that the company as a whole likely has policies regarding their compensation plan, which your boss has to abide by. Unless your boss is the CEO, there's not much wiggl room in those policies.
I am up against that myself. My company brought me into this position for a song, as it was an internal promotion with a huge jump in responsibilities, so they had my old salary as a basis. I did get a cost of living increase, and a more than average raise, but not in line with compable performers.
Fast-forward to today and with the experience garnered, I am responsible for the largest accounts in my region. My boss is one of my biggest fans, and wants to give me more, but the company is more concerned about their bottom line, and I'm just a number on the books. The only way to get the increase I deserve will be to seek employment elsewhere, or possibly they'll cave to keep me, when I put in my notice.
I was told by a friend many years ago that the only way to get a large salary increase is to go to a different company. He did exactly that, and then ironically got hired back on with the original company at the higher pay scale, it just took a couple years.
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