Dealer stripped the oil drain plug...

[dcs13]

Are you saying you're going to try scamming a free motor out of this?

Completely wrong and unethical, would never consider that. I do expect at some point they are going to have to put a pan on it though.
Wondering if I should replace the filter in a day or two in case some metal got left behind..

[A_A_G]

Every one, and since this cropped up, they will do all the rest until the day I get rid of it.. Rather do my own when out of warranty, but I'm not taking any chances...

I would demamd a new oil pan. They screwed up and should replace it, you didnt bring your car in with a helicoil oil pan. Why should you get it back with one?

[Grape]

ask the dealer how tall the thread insert is........then ask if it's acceptable to leave that amount of oil in the bottom of the pan for every oil change and if that would affect your warranty.

[Ruffdaddy]

ask the dealer how tall the thread insert is........then ask if it's acceptable to leave that amount of oil in the bottom of the pan for every oil change and if that would affect your warranty.

Helicoil is wound diamond wire...I'd think it'll let liquid through if it's even full thread depth

[dcs13]

THe work order says "helicoil" . Good point, if it were an insert, could prohibit all the oil from draining...Perhaps on the next change I will go have a look first hand...

[KBScobravert]

What kind of car? How many miles? How frequently is the oil changed? Who performs the services?

4 very important questions.

If there is no dealer concessions put the kit in and forget about it.

[gnturboray]

I smell toast

[Ruffdaddy]

THe work order says "helicoil" . Good point, if it were an insert, could prohibit all the oil from draining...Perhaps on the next change I will go have a look first hand...

A Helicoil IS an insert...

[dcs13]

I smell toast

That's your BOWTIE burning your sandwich...

[barronj]

helicoils hold half my dirt bike bike together that i guarantee gets ran harder than your fucked in three years challenger.

keeps your pants on mary. it will be ok.

L O L

I started out this reply as with some serious haterade but in the recent spirit of being nice I'll explain this to you without being a dick. I also should have added the disclaimer "when used properly".

When installing a helicoil, you have to slightly overdrill your threads to accomodate the larger diameter of the insert. This in turn increases the shear area thus increasing the ultimate fastening strength. Furthermore, the flexibility of a helicoil (spring like) allows more proper load distribution throughout the tapped hole. The only way I can imagine a helicoil will ever be weaker is if it's used improperly and put into some exotic VERY strong and VERY hard material that an insert cannot accomodate. But I don't see that happening as damage should occurr to fasteners first.

Any good engineer/designer should know the considerations to make when using threaded inserts of any sort and should ensure there is enough thread engagement and appropriate material selection. Several aerospace and defense applications will use helicoils in ALL holes because of the strength and reduced thread wear they provide. And I am talking in the as-new condition, not as a repair.

The TimeSert you reference does have applications where it may be better suited than a helicoil, but it is not better. All threaded inserts have their time and place. There's a reason Helicoil is among the most widely used and accepted.

Learnin' something new err' day. Thanks DFW!

[stevo]

I would demamd a new oil pan. They screwed up and should replace it, you didnt bring your car in with a helicoil oil pan. Why should you get it back with one?

This.

Stevo

[black50]

Helicoil is ALWAYS weaker than the parent material. An insert such as a TimeSert can be as strong as the original connection if installed correctly. IMO, Helicoils should never be used in high stress areas such as head bolts / spark plug threads. An oil pan drain plug is probably just fine but I wouldn't use a Helicoil just on general standards. There are better choices.

A Helicoil will always be stronger

[Vertnut]

Everyone in this thread would have been pissed off it was their car or a mustang.

You damn right they would be, myself included.

[Rick Modena]

No, mustang peeps change their own oil

[Redd]

THe work order says "helicoil" . Good point, if it were an insert, could prohibit all the oil from draining...Perhaps on the next change I will go have a look first hand...

Should of had a look first hand when they fubard your pan... I would only accept the helicoil for a temporary action for a pan/ time to get the car in to replace. But if your under warranty you should get a rental.