Possible DWI reform in the works

[Dlachance]

Isn't it a toss up between us and California as to who leads the nation in DWI deaths? I mean, aren't we the second biggest state? Seems like alarmist bullshit to point that out.

Secondly, no matter what happens you can guarantee that the flow of dollars in the state's pocket and the pockets of defense attornies will continue.

Guess what percentage of the drunk drivers are Hispanics.

EDIT:

1,712.2 per 10,000 Hispanics are drunk drivers.

742.6 per 10,000 Non-Hispanics are drunk drivers.

And this was in 1984! There are so many more Hispanics now.

profiles.nlm.nih.gov/NN/B/C/Y/L/_/nnbcyl.pdf

[KBScobravert]

I'm headed to the bar. Anyone care to join me?

I have had ONE beer or drink since I got my release from living in prohibition last Saturday afternoon and to be honest I have passed on several beers or glasses of wine the last week.

[Mike]

Sure, what the hell!

Can we use the lights and siren?

[KBScobravert]

Guess what percentage of the drunk drivers are illegals.

I would rather know this

[Vertnut]

Sure, what the hell!

How about I stick to my Diet Coke (waved over an open bottle of Eagle Rare), and you drink?

[The King]

Guess what percentage of the drunk drivers are Hispanics.

EDIT:

1,712.2 per 10,000 Hispanics are drunk drivers.

742.6 per 10,000 Non-Hispanics are drunk drivers.

And this was in 1984! There are so many more Hispanics now.

profiles.nlm.nih.gov/NN/B/C/Y/L/_/nnbcyl.pdf

Many of whom are oh-so-easy to pick out by their POS rides.

[jdgregory84]

So, we lead the nation in DWI fatalities, and we want the message to be - don't worry about the first one, it's just a trip to rehab and won't stay on your record?

Fail.

They're saying it will be on your record, just not your public record. They have to keep it on your record to know if it's a first time offense or not. It says that in the story. The laws of DWI's are very black and white. I think that there should be rules of course, like if the first time offender takes a BAC test and it's over twice the limit, they're not qualified for deffered adjudication. Somebody blowing a .09 though and is pulled over at 2:30am because he was seen leaving a bar, should not receive the same punishment as somebody who's swerving all over the road blows a .24.

[MILK]

Guess what percentage of the drunk drivers are Hispanics.

EDIT:

1,712.2 per 10,000 Hispanics are drunk drivers.

742.6 per 10,000 Non-Hispanics are drunk drivers.

And this was in 1984! There are so many more Hispanics now.

profiles.nlm.nih.gov/NN/B/C/Y/L/_/nnbcyl.pdf

Thats just how alot of Hispanics/Mexicans live. I know it is sad but it is true. Work hard party hard aswell!!

[Sean88gt]

Thats just how alot of Hispanics/Mexicans live. I know it is sad but it is true. Work hard party hard aswell!!

Ban mexicans!

[03trubluGT]

I have had ONE beer or drink since I got my release from living in prohibition last Saturday afternoon and to be honest I have passed on several beers or glasses of wine the last week.

I don't drink in public, and very rarely at home, or someone else's home.

Can we use the lights and siren?

That's gonna be hard since I don't have a take home car. I do have a red/blue LED light for my police bike I can hold up to the windshield while you stick your head out the window and wail like a siren!

[Baba Ganoush]

The only way to curb drunk driving is to put a breathalyzer on EVERY car, like a fucking seatbelt. I disagree with all the people who want to punish so harshly the ones that get caught. For every one that gets stopped and blows over the limit, there are 200 that make it home. Drunk driving is a real problem, stiffer penalties have not and will not work. What about those distracted drivers? They kill more people than the drunks, but we're not sticking them with a fine, taking their license away, and throwing them in jail. This seems to me a classic example of pissing on a forest fire.

[The King]

The only way to curb drunk driving is to put a breathalyzer on EVERY car, like a fucking seatbelt. I disagree with all the people who want to punish so harshly the ones that get caught. For every one that gets stopped and blows over the limit, there are 200 that make it home. Drunk driving is a real problem, stiffer penalties have not and will not work. What about those distracted drivers? They kill more people than the drunks, but we're not sticking them with a fine, taking their license away, and throwing them in jail. This seems to me a classic example of pissing on a forest fire.

They work quite well in removing that 1 out of every 200 offenders from our public roads while they are experiencing the consequences of our legal system.

[ceyko]

The only way to curb drunk driving is to put a breathalyzer on EVERY car, like a fucking seatbelt. I disagree with all the people who want to punish so harshly the ones that get caught. For every one that gets stopped and blows over the limit, there are 200 that make it home. Drunk driving is a real problem, stiffer penalties have not and will not work. What about those distracted drivers? They kill more people than the drunks, but we're not sticking them with a fine, taking their license away, and throwing them in jail. This seems to me a classic example of pissing on a forest fire.

The only point I'll argue here is it is probably waaaay higher then 200. Hell, I probably know 10 or 20 people a week that drink over the technical limit and drive. At that I don't know many people.

I do agree with the pissing on a forest fire thing, but can't say I know the right answer.

[Baba Ganoush]

They work quite well in removing that 1 out of every 200 offenders from our public roads while they are experiencing the consequences of our legal system.

Right. Thank god! They caught one, now our roads safe!! You just proved my point. This is the type of thinking that gets nowhere. You punish one person for the mistakes of many. This will not have any effect on those who are not caught, until they kill someone.

I don't have an answer, but our current policy and ideas are NOT working.

[The King]

Right. Thank god! They caught one, now our roads safe!! You just proved my point. This is the type of thinking that gets nowhere. You punish one person for the mistakes of many. This will not have any effect on those who are not caught, until they kill someone.

I don't have an answer, but our current policy and ideas are NOT working.

You missed my point. One less intoxicated driver is a resounding success, one step at a time. That one person who gets punished is not being held accountable for anyone's mistake but their own; the many who get away with it are no excuse for any one individual's stupidity and selfishness when they know the law and choose to ignore it.