Offduty motorcycle cop hits little girl > dad beats cop > cop kills dad

[white trash wagon]

I can. I'd tend to my daughter first.

Exactly, a parents first thought in this situation should be the little girls condition, not beating the crap out of whoever else was involved. The little girl could have pass away while daddy was beating up the cop.

[ceyko]

Absolutely.. why the fuck was their 3 year old outside and in the street?? Beyond that, his profession is irrelevant unless he was on duty.. otherwise an armed citizen killed a POS who was attacking him

Well, apparently in FL if you shoot someone who is beating the shit out of you - you go to jail and get charged. If you're an off duty LEO - apparently it does make a difference since they've already cleared him. At least based off the wording of the article.

[Forever_frost]

I'm torn on this one. Girl shouldn't have been able to get to the street, if the cop chose to lay the bike down instead of stopping had to have been traveling fairly quickly as bikes stop incredibly fast, and the father, well I can see why he did what he did. You touch my child, I'm going to remove your head.

Cop shot someone trying to protect himself after hitting a child with a bike, father died beating someone who hit his child with a motor vehicle.

Rip to the father, the cop won't have anything done to him no matter if he was at fault, he'll get training and that will be that. He hit a kid with a bike. Not just the kid, but the 18 year old with the kid.

[Forever_frost]

As the officer attempted to provide aide to the girl, her father, identified as Christopher Middleton, 26, came running out of a nearby restaurant and aggressively approached the officer and began shouting, officials said. The cop argues that he identified himself as a police officer but Middleton still hit him in the face and knocked him to the ground before striking him repeatedly.

According to the Daily Herald, the officer said, “Take it easy, I’m the Police.” But Middleton replied, “I don’t give a f*ck who you are,” and punched him in the face.

Passley reportedly began kicking the officer, joining Middleton in the assault. Shortly after, the officer drew his weapon and fired once, fatally wounding Middleton. He was pronounced dead at around 10:14 p.m. Saturday at Loyola Medical Center.




I agree with this: I don't care who you are. You hit my kid with a vehicle. You can't do that and say "Take it easy, I'm a cop." That doesn't undo what you just did.

[Cooter]

he was rendering aid! the fucking TODDLER ran out in the middle of the street

sounds like stupid mother fuckers winning stupid prizes

[bcoop]

I agree with this: I don't care who you are. You hit my kid with a vehicle. You can't do that and say "Take it easy, I'm a cop." That doesn't undo what you just did.

Nor does it undo your complete and total neglect of your child, and utter failure as a parent. Accidents happen. Your attitude is going to get you shot one day. You simply can't do whatever the fuck you want. You don't want your kid getting run over, keep it out of the street. It's that simple. You can get angry at someone else for your failure all you want. It doesn't fix your failure, and doesn't change the situation. Shifting blame doesn't do anyone involved any good.

[Forever_frost]

I said the father fucked up. However in the heat of the moment of seeing a bike hit your kid, someone saying "hey, it's okay. I'm a cop" does not stop anything. "Oh, I'm sorry officer. You just struck my kid and her cousin with a motorcycle but since your'e an officer, terribly sorry. Would you like an ice pack for your shoulder?"

[Forever_frost]

Nor does it undo your complete and total neglect of your child, and utter failure as a parent. Accidents happen. Your attitude is going to get you shot one day. You simply can't do whatever the fuck you want. You don't want your kid getting run over, keep it out of the street. It's that simple. You can get angry at someone else for your failure all you want. It doesn't fix your failure, and doesn't change the situation. Shifting blame doesn't do anyone involved any good.

Already happened multiple times. Actually caused the attitude because before that I was mild and meek and just wanted to get along

[bcoop]

I said the father fucked up. However in the heat of the moment of seeing a bike hit your kid, someone saying "hey, it's okay. I'm a cop" does not stop anything. "Oh, I'm sorry officer. You just struck my kid and her cousin with a motorcycle but since your'e an officer, terribly sorry. Would you like an ice pack for your shoulder?"

You need to learn to control your emotions. Seriously. Being upset, sure. But to haul off and start kicking his ass? Pretty fucking stupid, IMO. As if the cop doesn't feel bad enough as it is, why escalate things further? What good is that going to do? How is that going to help the child? He was already trying to help the child. All it did in this situation was delay help for the child, and cause even more trauma because he had to be a badass and get himself killed.


I'm all about going to ridiculous lengths to protect my children. But snap decisions rarely end well. It wasn't like he purposely ran her down like a dog in the street.

[ceyko]

I really wish we had some more details. Ultimately bcoop is right. We don't let our kids in the streets at all - but where I live now we do since they are a lot different than a development. However, our thought has always been - that regardless if the driver is doing 100 in a residential, it does not bring back a dead kid.

With that said, there are little details that would make me feel perfectly fine about clobbering someone who hurt my kid doing something stupid. Granted, we're supposed to keep the kids out of the streets and accept full responsibility when otherwise happens. However, I don't live my life that way.

We look out for neighbor kids and generally are very careful in neighborhoods. Hell, I'm pretty sure I stopped my truck in under 10' once for a kid. Had I been doing the speed limit - it probably would have turned out differently.

Yeah, my reasoning is I can't live with killing a kid in my truck regardless of who is at fault.

...I'm going to stop babbling - not enough detail and I stand by what I said before that the cop was in the right. I can see how someone may feel justified in pummeling him though depending on specifics.

[Forever_frost]

You need to learn to control your emotions. Seriously. Being upset, sure. But to haul off and start kicking his ass? Pretty fucking stupid, IMO. As if the cop doesn't feel bad enough as it is, why escalate things further? What good is that going to do? How is that going to help the child? He was already trying to help the child. All it did in this situation was delay help for the child, and cause even more trauma because he had to be a badass and get himself killed.


I'm all about going to ridiculous lengths to protect my children. But snap decisions rarely end well. It wasn't like he purposely ran her down like a dog in the street.

I'm supposed to be worried about his feelings? What kind of bullshit is that? You want the definition of temporary insanity? Seeing your kid hit by a vehicle and the guy telling you it's okay.

[Forever_frost]

I really wish we had some more details. Ultimately bcoop is right. We don't let our kids in the streets at all - but where I live now we do since they are a lot different than a development. However, our thought has always been - that regardless if the driver is doing 100 in a residential, it does not bring back a dead kid.

With that said, there are little details that would make me feel perfectly fine about clobbering someone who hurt my kid doing something stupid. Granted, we're supposed to keep the kids out of the streets and accept full responsibility when otherwise happens. However, I don't live my life that way.

We look out for neighbor kids and generally are very careful in neighborhoods. Hell, I'm pretty sure I stopped my truck in under 10' once for a kid. Had I been doing the speed limit - it probably would have turned out differently.

Yeah, my reasoning is I can't live with killing a kid in my truck regardless of who is at fault.

...I'm going to stop babbling - not enough detail and I stand by what I said before that the cop was in the right. I can see how someone may feel justified in pummeling him though depending on specifics.

This. I can see beating his ass into the ground for someone hurting my child regardless of the circumstances.

[bcoop]

I'm supposed to be worried about his feelings? What kind of bullshit is that? You want the definition of temporary insanity? Seeing your kid hit by a vehicle and the guy telling you it's okay.

No, I see the living definition of insanity every time you post.

[bcoop]

I'm supposed to be worried about his feelings? What kind of bullshit is that?

He is supposed to be worried about your feelings, when your kid is running around in the street? What kind of bullshit is that? Put them on a fucking leash if you can't control them. Jesus Christ.

[dmh165638]

I'm supposed to be worried about his feelings? What kind of bullshit is that? You want the definition of temporary insanity? Seeing your kid hit by a vehicle and the guy telling you it's okay.

Not at all. You are not supposed to run past your kid and her cousin laying in the street possibly dying so you can get revenge when you have no fucking clue what happened. Worked out well for the father didn't it. If the kid was conscious do you think watching her dad run past and start beating on someone might add to the trauma? How about your kid watching you get hauled off to jail in handcuffs while she gets loaded up in an ambulance screaming for her daddy? She could lay in her hospital bed suffering while you rot in a jail cell because you can't control your temper. What if the kid died while the dad was beating on the cop? How would you feel living with that little tidbit in your mind. Would knowing you beat the shit out of bike owner make you feel any better.