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    Read any and everything you can about the current US Government Sequestration. If after you have done that and you believe that it is not right for the Government to employ sequestration please let them know by taking less than 5 minutes and send a letter to them!

    Panetta, Defense Industry Leaders Meet to Discuss Sequestration

    Sequestration predicted to hit states, defense and President Obama if no deal reached
    Originally posted by Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said on July 17.
    We are known for a lot of dumb things up here, but this sequestration concept was really the dumbest."
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    Hit the "Take Action" button and in less than 5 minutes you read a summary about it and you can send a letter denouncing it.

    I agree the Government needs to cut spending, but not like this. This is their "easy way out", IHMO. The Government officials need to roll up their sleeves and actually WORK to find other places to cut money. Our defense, IMHO, should be paramount! Not the "easy way to fix spending".

    I'll say this preemptively, "Damn I wish we had a political forum." Sorry, I just felt like the general population should know about this as it occurs in January! Also, yes, I do have a dog in this fight as I work for a defense contractor out of Ft. Worth. However, I know we have many military folks here and other such contractors. If THEY don't know about this, they SHOULD!
    Originally posted by Taya Kyle, American Gun
    There comes a time when honest debate, serious diplomatic efforts, and logical arguments have been exhausted and only men and women willing to take up arms against evil will suffice to save the freedom of a nation or continent.

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    Knowing how inefficient our defense spending is...I think it can bet cut by 15% with minimal effect by increasing efficiencies, laying off shitty employees, and cutting the massive amount of middle managers we have

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    • #3
      So..... you're for or against sequestration?
      Originally posted by Taya Kyle, American Gun
      There comes a time when honest debate, serious diplomatic efforts, and logical arguments have been exhausted and only men and women willing to take up arms against evil will suffice to save the freedom of a nation or continent.

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      • #4
        How about doing away with the way they budget. You know how many times I have seen or heard of good unused parts, equipment etc being thrown in the trash so it has to be bought again so the unit will get the money they need the next year. But that makes to much sense.

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        • #5
          I love it went September rolls around and we have several crates of ammo to shoot off because heaven forbid we keep it past the fiscal year.
          De Oppresso Liber.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View Post
            Knowing how inefficient our defense spending is...I think it can bet cut by 15% with minimal effect by increasing efficiencies, laying off shitty employees, and cutting the massive amount of middle managers we have
            Instead, what they'll do is cut our ammo for training, our equipment and benefits
            I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
              Instead, what they'll do is cut our ammo for training, our equipment and benefits
              Lol...why do I bother responding to you? Read the prior posts...

              Like I said the defense budgets can lose 15% with no noticeable effect.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View Post
                Lol...why do I bother responding to you? Read the prior posts...

                Like I said the defense budgets can lose 15% with no noticeable effect.
                lmao, because he is an awesome patriot that took a fucking round in the fucking head and is still here with us, that's why. Do you know of anyone else that has done that? .................yeah, me either.
                May God give us strength and courage in the time of our darkest hours.
                Semper Fi

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View Post
                  Lol...why do I bother responding to you? Read the prior posts...

                  Like I said the defense budgets can lose 15% with no noticeable effect.
                  Probably because I've actually had to train running around yelling "bang bang" in a trainup to Iraq. I also got there without uparmored vehicles, green vests, green kevlars, weapons that were deadined (mine wasn't as I spent my own money to maintain it) and gear that was broken or badly mended.

                  You want to pull money from one of the 18 enumerated obligations this country has? Pick another. Or, pick welfare or something else not CONSTITUTIONALLY mandated to be provided
                  I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                    Probably because I've actually had to train running around yelling "bang bang" in a trainup to Iraq. I also got there without uparmored vehicles, green vests, green kevlars, weapons that were deadined (mine wasn't as I spent my own money to maintain it) and gear that was broken or badly mended.

                    You want to pull money from one of the 18 enumerated obligations this country has? Pick another. Or, pick welfare or something else not CONSTITUTIONALLY mandated to be provided
                    you didnt get dragon skin? lol
                    May God give us strength and courage in the time of our darkest hours.
                    Semper Fi

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jester View Post
                      you didnt get dragon skin? lol
                      Hell no. I got SAPE plates that I wasn't issued until I got to Kuwait. They also pulled our IV kits and the medic's morphine because of budget issues and we weren't issued 203 rounds for the same reason.

                      Ever been in a firefight without grenades, no backup and the only thing you have ammo wise is what you brought into the fight?

                      It pisses me off when people scream about cutting defense when defense is actually an ENUMERATED OBLIGATION. Cut everything else before you touch that. I don't care if you cut food stamps, medicare and medicaid, payments to illegals, section 8 housing. Cut it all before you take one dollar from defending this Republic.
                      I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View Post
                        Lol...why do I bother responding to you? Read the prior posts...

                        Like I said the defense budgets can lose 15% with no noticeable effect.
                        What are you basing your numbers off of? Where can we pull 15% and maintain combat effectiveness?
                        I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                          Hell no. I got SAPE plates that I wasn't issued until I got to Kuwait. They also pulled our IV kits and the medic's morphine because of budget issues and we weren't issued 203 rounds for the same reason.

                          Ever been in a firefight without grenades, no backup and the only thing you have ammo wise is what you brought into the fight?

                          It pisses me off when people scream about cutting defense when defense is actually an ENUMERATED OBLIGATION. Cut everything else before you touch that. I don't care if you cut food stamps, medicare and medicaid, payments to illegals, section 8 housing. Cut it all before you take one dollar from defending this Republic.
                          YAY, Clinton!!!!!!!!!!! lol
                          May God give us strength and courage in the time of our darkest hours.
                          Semper Fi

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                            Cut it all before you take one dollar from defending this Republic.
                            The problem is that where they start pulling money from are the people that it hurts the most. The guys in the field. It's that way in almost every business, the people at the bottom eat the most shit.

                            There are hundreds if not thousands of ways to cut defense spending without reaching the situations that you're describing, but we all know that none of those would ever happen. Instead, they'd send the infantry out with fucking sling shots so that someone else's pet projects could get full funding, and the government could waste millions on shit that doesn't matter.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ThreeFingerPete View Post
                              The problem is that where they start pulling money from are the people that it hurts the most. The guys in the field. It's that way in almost every business, the people at the bottom eat the most shit.

                              There are hundreds if not thousands of ways to cut defense spending without reaching the situations that you're describing, but we all know that none of those would ever happen. Instead, they'd send the infantry out with fucking sling shots so that someone else's pet projects could get full funding, and the government could waste millions on shit that doesn't matter.
                              you got that right, bro. Leave us grunts out in the field with a nice warm slingshot in one hand and a Dear John letter in the other.
                              May God give us strength and courage in the time of our darkest hours.
                              Semper Fi

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