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    Please let me know if I am blowing this out of proportion or if I am justified in being upset. My girlfriend, my 18 month old, and myself were at the mall today shopping for some dress pants for the baby. We were in JC Penney at closing time when I looked at the time on my phone. I watched my phone roll from 5:59 to 6:00 and at 6:00:02, someone comes over the speaker asking everyone to leave the store through the north entrance, that the store was now closed. It seemed odd, that customers weren't asked to check out first with what ever they already had prepared to purchase instead of immediately asking them to leave, but I didnt really care since I didn't find what I was looking for any how. We were closest to the south entrance to Jc Penney which connects the store to the mall. This is the entrance we needed because our vehicle was on the opposite side of the mall. It has been my experience that department stores at closing time will close all but a small area, to let people get back to where they parked at. 30 seconds after the hour, a full 28 seconds after the original announcement came on the loud speaker,my family along with approximately 30 others arrive to the south entrance to find it completely blocked off. A few of us asked the staff that was just sitting there if they would open the door so we could walk through the mall to get to our vehicles. The lady told me that security locks the doors and there is nothing they can do about it so I asked her to call security so that I can ask them myself. I felt she was lying about who locks the doors, and this was confirmed when she told me that there isn't a way to contact security. This was an obvious lie. When I asked her what the point of having mall security was, if you can't even contact them if there was some sort of emergency, but she couldn't answer that one. Frustrated, we started following the walk way to the north exit. This walk way passes right by the east exit and I couldn't help notice the swarm of people randomly trying different doors to try to get out but they were all trapped. A pregnant woman was even told, "too bad" when she tried to explain how she needed to go through that exit. We left out the north exit, walked around to the east, passed the east exit, and continued a couple more feet to find a mall entrance still open right by the south entrance(mall entrance) of the store. In other words everyone had to walk the exact opposite way to exit, walk around the perimeter of the store to the first mall entrance to get to their cars. I flagged a mall security guy down who informed me that they are not responsible for locking doors, the stores are. On our way back through the mall I couldnt help notice how crowded it still was, with business still open and customers still shopping. For those businesses that were closed, their doors were half closed or gates half pulled down but still accessable for customers who needed to get out. I passed by Sears, Macy's, and Dillards and every last one of these stores had every entrance to the mall wide open.
    As I walked through the final store needed to get to my car, I went ahead and asked an associate if there was a way to contact security in case of an emergency. She responded with, "of course!" To me, there is no doubt in my mind that with customer service like this, it is no surprise that jcp is having to struggle to not meet the same fate as montgomery ward. At the very least, isn't locking customers in the store dangerous and maybe against fire codes?
    Last edited by TEAMJACOB; 07-01-2012, 07:15 PM.

  • #2
    Uhhh....

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    • #3
      JC Penney
      Originally posted by davbrucas
      I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

      Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

      You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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      • #4
        Should have gone to Ross.

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        • #5
          It's fucken JC Penney, they are almsot out of business, so people working there don't give a rat's ass about customer service!

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          • #6
            Park closer to the south entrance next time or leave on time.
            Originally posted by Cmarsh93z
            Don't Fuck with DFWmustangs...the most powerfull gang I have ever been a member of.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GE View Post
              Uhhh....
              derp

              Originally posted by slow99 View Post
              JC Penney
              fixed

              Originally posted by Shaggin Wagon View Post
              Should have gone to Ross.
              trying to find black dress pants for an 18 month old has proven to be a chore

              Originally posted by yellowstang View Post
              It's fucken JC Penney, they are almsot out of business, so people working there don't give a rat's ass about customer service!
              this is what i am thinking. i was just completely dumb founded at the logic.

              Originally posted by 347Mike View Post
              Park closer to the south entrance next time or leave on time.
              we parked at macys to buy from macys. macys unfortunately didnt have it either so we went to all department stores.

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              • #8
                If a store "closes" at 6:00pm....then it closes at 6 PM!!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 1carcrazyguy View Post
                  If a store "closes" at 6:00pm....then it closes at 6 PM!!
                  you are a god damn idiot and must work there. name one other store that herds you out like cattle at 6:00 on the dot. regardless, i wasnt trying to purchase, nor was i trying to shop, i was trying to leave at 6 pm and they were sealing off exits with upward of 200 customers still in the store.
                  Last edited by TEAMJACOB; 07-01-2012, 07:35 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TEAMJACOB View Post
                    you are a god damn idiot and must work there. name one other store that hurds you out like cattle at 6:00 on the dot. regardless, i wasnt trying to purchase, nor was i trying to shop, i was trying to leave at 6 pm and they were sealing off exits with upward of 200 customers still in the store.
                    No just spent 15 years in retail. If you have spent time in retail you know that someone will ALWAYS walk in the door a couple of minutes before closing and just walk around and stare at the ground, then the sky. They will move stuff around, open things up, ask to use the restroom and walk around with no other purpose. Then after 20-30 mintues they head for the door like they had time to kill and were not looking for anything to begin with.



                    I look at it like this...if I was going to a business that had set hours. I make sure that I am in/out and back to my car before the close of business.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TEAMJACOB View Post
                      hurds you out like cattle

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 1carcrazyguy View Post
                        No just spent 15 years in retail. If you have spent time in retail you know that someone will ALWAYS walk in the door a couple of minutes before closing and just walk around and stare at the ground, then the sky. They will move stuff around, open things up, ask to use the restroom and walk around with no other purpose. Then after 20-30 mintues they head for the door like they had time to kill and were not looking for anything to begin with.



                        I look at it like this...if I was going to a business that had set hours. I make sure that I am in/out and back to my car before the close of business.
                        locking people out is ok. but the door should be accessable for those trying to leave.

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                        • #13
                          Ridgmar?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TEAMJACOB View Post
                            locking people out is ok. but the door should be accessable for those trying to leave.
                            I can not speak for the store but it is my quess the store manager has asked some of the employees to have their areas ready to close at 6PM, the close of business. That way those employees clock out just a minute or two after closing. One area remained open (door security scanners still on) and employees in that area to run the cash registers and pick up,clean up after all "customers" leave. It probably rotates which area closes so that the same people are not the ones staying "late" every time.

                            Here is why. If the store had say 20 employees on the clock at 6PM. They have half "ready to go" at 6PM and clock out. The others that have to stay to close the remaining areas will be there probably at least 20-30 minutes. So the manager just knocked off probably 3-5 hours of labor costs. Those costs add up in a hurry. And then multiply that for a year! That is big savings for any businesss.

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                            • #15
                              JC Penney can, and always could suck a bag of dicks.
                              "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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