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  • #31
    The level of balls mixed with pride and dedication was unrivaled. I am in awe (still) of the sacrifices made and unification around a cause.

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    • #32
      My Grandfather stormed those beaches. May he rest in peace.

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      • #33
        Patton truly is one of the tragic heroes of WW2. The man that won the war but never made it home.
        "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
        "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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        • #34
          Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Post
          Patton truly is one of the tragic heroes of WW2. The man that won the war but never made it home.
          To go from the guy who gave that speech to being paralyzed from the neck down for the last ~2 weeks of your life in a European hospital, all just days before going home for good... shitty.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Strychnine View Post
            To go from the guy who gave that speech to being paralyzed from the neck down for the last ~2 weeks of your life in a European hospital, all just days before going home for good... shitty.
            And even some of his final actions did not veer from the truth
            After the close of World War II, Patton (now a full general) became the occupation commander of Bavaria, and made arrangements for saving the world-famous Lipizzaner stallions of Vienna, fearing that the Red Army would slaughter the horses for food. Patton was relieved of duty after openly revolting against the punitive occupation directive JCS 1067.[118] His view of the war was that with Hitler gone, the German army could be rebuilt into an ally in a potential war against the Russians, whom Patton notoriously despised and considered a greater menace than the Germans. During this period, he wrote that the Allied victory would be in vain if it led to a tyrant worse than Hitler and an army of "Mongolian savages" controlling half of Europe. Eisenhower had at last had enough, relieving Patton of all duties and ordering his return to the United States. When Patton openly accused Eisenhower of caring more about a political career than his military duties, their friendship effectively came to an end.

            In addition, Patton was highly critical of the victorious Allies use of German forced labor. He commented in his diary "I'm also opposed to sending PW's to work as slaves in foreign lands (in particular, to France) where many will be starved to death." He also noted "It is amusing to recall that we fought the revolution in defense of the rights of man and the civil war to abolish slavery and have now gone back on both principles."
            Right on both counts.
            "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
            "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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            • #36
              I'd have to say another thing about Patton that many people do not know is how much he was despised by his colleagues. Eisenhower use to be friends with him, but ended up hating his guts after the war. He rated him a distant 3rd, behind Carl Spaatz, Walter Bedell Smith (a desk jockey), and Omar Bradley (laughable). Just about everyone on the allies side hated him, and just about everyone of our enemies revered and feared him.
              "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
              "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Post
                I'd have to say another thing about Patton that many people do not know is how much he was despised by his colleagues. Eisenhower use to be friends with him, but ended up hating his guts after the war. He rated him a distant 3rd, behind Carl Spaatz, Walter Bedell Smith (a desk jockey), and Omar Bradley (laughable). Just about everyone on the allies side hated him, and just about everyone of our enemies revered and feared him.
                Patton/ "Just where I want them..."

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                • #38
                  Every June 6th, I watch Band of Brothers from start to finish in honor of those brave souls. May not be a lot, but it always reminds me what some of them went through.
                  Some cars and a bike...

                  Some say... they have been raced, some a lot

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                  • #39
                    Balls of steel. My pops was on the US side and my FIL was on the German side.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by CJ-95GT View Post
                        Balls of steel. My pops was on the US side and my FIL was on the German side.
                        Did they ever meet? How did that go?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by CJ-95GT View Post
                          Balls of steel. My pops was on the US side and my FIL was on the German side.
                          Very similar in my family. Both sides of my family are German. My father side moved to the US pre-WW1 and fought for the US as a translator in a field company. My Grandfather on my mothers side was a Wehrmacht Oberstleutnant under the name Stouffer. Unfortunately they only had the opportunity to meet once, and from what my father said, they never said a word about the war, and only spoke in English. The only real memory I have of Grandpa Stouffer was him being 6'6 and when I was sitting at the kiddie table for thanksgiving and I wouldn't shut up, so he picked me up by my neck and held me against the ceiling/wall.
                          Last edited by CJ; 08-08-2016, 07:36 AM.
                          "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                          "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                          • #43
                            Damn, I feel bad for not remembering

                            R.I.P. grandpaw, this is his boot pic and his military issue pocket watch that I was told was on him. He was a medic.

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                            • #44
                              Seeing this reminds me that everyone who has ever put on that uniform is in good company.

                              We need another Patton. He'd spit on our politicians and their political correct way of fighting a war
                              Last edited by Forever_frost; 06-06-2012, 10:32 PM.
                              I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                              • #45
                                I think of this and it helps remind me how easy it is to be deployed and fight nowadays. We may never know such hardships again.

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