Do you treat fat people differently?

[davbrucas]

Now you're discussing an entirely different group of people Dave. I know more unemployed slender men than anything else. Looking down your nose at everyone draining the system, and looking down your nose at someone strictly based on their appearance are two different monsters.

So now that we've discovered all unemployed aren't strictly obese gravy train eatin' motherfuckers, what justification do you have for looking down your nose at fat people? Other than the fact you pride your dietary choices well above theirs. You're a better person because you don't eat as much at one sitting? You're a better person because you don't consume as many unhealthy items in a day as another? You're NOT an asshole by somehow saying you're better simply because you don't have an issue with weight?

They way you started off this thread and the way you're posting now are two different angles. The way I took your original point is that all fat people should be verbally abused, because they're fat so they deserve it.

You are slanting the discussion to meet your agenda...calling us self-righteous for feeling that obesity is a disgusting condition. It has nothing to do with me putting myself above them. It is a simple observation about people who eat themselves into disgustingness and then expect the rest of us to deal with it. I couldnt give two shits if someone thinks that I am an asshole for having opinions about something. But I never said anything about verbally abusing people because they are fat. Prejudices are better kept to yourself in that situation as it does no good. Heck, I cant even counsel obese people about it because their poor little feelings get hurt and they complain to administration. The whole system is set up to enable this lazy behavior. Be it obesity, welfare, health care, whatever...

[MutherjuggZ]

Maybe they never asked for your respect? People have their beliefs...they may not be congruent with yours. Doesnt make either of you right or wrong.

Never said they did.

I just never guessed you guys to be so shallow

[MutherjuggZ]

You are slanting the discussion to meet your agenda...calling us self-righteous for feeling that obesity is a disgusting condition. It has nothing to do with me putting myself above them. It is a simple observation about people who eat themselves into disgustingness and then expect the rest of us to deal with it. I couldnt give two shits if someone thinks that I am an asshole for having opinions about something. But I never said anything about verbally abusing people because they are fat. Prejudices are better kept to yourself in that situation as it does no good. Heck, I cant even counsel obese people about it because their poor little feelings get hurt and they complain to administration. The whole system is set up to enable this lazy behavior. Be it obesity, welfare, health care, whatever...

Not trying to slant anything. I'm just trying to find out why it's okay to treat them differently?

WHY is it okay for you to be less respectful to a fat person?

[davbrucas]

Never said they did.

I just never guessed you guys to be so shallow

I dont call it shallowness...I call it reality. More people should experience that. Yeah, some feelings may get hurt, but that's not always a bad thing. Who's the fatty in your family for you to take such offense to it?

[GhostTX]

Not trying to slant anything. I'm just trying to find out why it's okay to treat them differently?

WHY is it okay for you to be less respectful to a fat person?

Define "respect"?

I don't do anything different with other people, unless it comes down to personal space (seat issue).

[MutherjuggZ]

Exactly. I'm not going to berate someone for it.

But I just get tired of the news when people want a handout for them not living "right" (better). Sure, lets sue fast food for non-addicting food. The behavior of eating BigMacs might be a conditioned addiction, but it's not a chemical dependency. I know fuel and recession has affected airline fees, but I'm charged $25+ for my bags when it plus me are less than the guy I'm sitting next to?

Obesity is a problem, but its self-inflicted. So when you're (not direct at anyone here) pushing your grocery cart full of Tontinos pizzas with the electric car you're sitting in and I roll my eyes.....sorry.

I can jive with all that, and agree with many points made on the facts of obesity in general.

[davbrucas]

You cant tell me that you dont gag a little looking at this...

[lowthreeohz]

I bet that truck is crying. (and on the bumpstops)

[MutherjuggZ]

depends on the amount of fat we are talking about. I was always considerd overweight, but never 100+ lbs. I do noticep that I treat healthy and attractive people better, but thats an instinctual thing, not a planned response.

im 5'7 150 lbs. and yes, definetly treat fatty's differently... cant help it.

Two of my wife's cousins are sisters, one is beautiful and in shape, the other is very fat (she has so much back fat she looks like a hunch back). I can't help but treat them differently.

In my feeble mind, it says a lot about a person's character, their willingness to give a shit. If you hate yourself enough to get that fat, why should I give a fuck about you either?

<--6'-3" - roughly 228 - and yeah, I'd like to lose about 20-25 pounds.

Yes. Even more so since i lost weight.

Depends on the level of fatness. I am 5'10", 175lbs. My dad is 5'8" and 220ish, pretty chunky, but he is plenty active so people like him I don't treat differently. Now when there is some fatass that is plugging along on their hover round chair while stacking the deck at a buffet, then yeah, I tend to dislike them. When there is a herd of fatasses blindly wandering, looking for an unsuspecting meal to chow on, clogging up doorways and isles, they REALLY PISS ME OFF.

Define "respect"?

I don't do anything different with other people, unless it comes down to personal space (seat issue).

All quotes above (to me) imply lack of respect...

You cant tell me that you dont gag a little looking at this...

It's unattractive indeed. Would I EVER give them a disgusted look? NO Would I EVER treat them like a piece of shit? NO Would I EVER think of myself to be a better person than either of those people, knowing nothing else but the differences in our appearences? NO

Where do you get off thinking they deserve it?

Who's the fatty in your family for you to take such offense to it?

Now that's just fucking rude. You have no clue where my angle stems from but you go ahead and step in waist deep by calling someone you don't even know... in my FAMILY a fatty? Time for you to fuck off Dr. Dave.

[davbrucas]

All quotes above (to me) imply lack of respect...



It's unattractive indeed. Would I EVER give them a disgusted look? NO Would I EVER treat them like a piece of shit? NO Would I EVER think of myself to be a better person than either of those people, knowing nothing else but the differences in our appearences? NO

Where do you get off thinking they deserve it?



Now that's just fucking rude. You have no clue where my angle stems from but you go ahead and step in waist deep by calling someone you don't even know... in my FAMILY a fatty? Time for you to fuck off Dr. Dave.

Boohoo...you want to come in and take some shots at people for their beliefs be prepared to get some shots taken back at you. Not once did I say that fat people would get a disgusted look. You are getting pissed over your perception of what we are saying.

[Broncojohnny]

You cant tell me that you dont gag a little looking at this...

Be honest, these are a couple of your patients and you went spelunking in their buttholes....

[jdgregory84]

Not trying to slant anything. I'm just trying to find out why it's okay to treat them differently?

WHY is it okay for you to be less respectful to a fat person?

I don't think anybody said it was "ok" to do so either. I think you're imagining a bunch of skinny people all huddled around eachother, pointing and laughing at the fat guy across the bar. Maybe you're looking too far into it. I had a job where I had to help a rather large guy get around for a while. He was about 5' 6" tops, and literally weighed literally 520lbs. Not only did his family have him on a liquid diet per doctors orders, the company that we worked for offered to pay for gastric bypass surgery for him, because he had been with the company for so long. He declined the surgery and constantly had people pick him up McDonalds and other fast food when they would go out on their lunch, including me. I wasn't gonna tell him no, because he was my boss. To me, my job was more important than his health. That was about 5 years ago, and I'm not sure what the guy is up to or if he's even still alive, but the last I heard about him was 2 years ago and he was over 600lbs. So I've personally been affected by a guy that was morbidly obese and had no intentions of doing anything about it.

Also, when I see somebody get out of their car, that's parked in a handicapped spot because they're overweight, or use a little electric cart at the grocery store because they're overweight, it pisses me off. There are 80 year old women who could've used that handicapped spot or electric cart.

So yeah, I've lost a little respect for those people. Respect has to be earned.

[GhostTX]

All quotes above (to me) imply lack of respect...

It's unattractive indeed. Would I EVER give them a disgusted look? NO Would I EVER treat them like a piece of shit? NO Would I EVER think of myself to be a better person than either of those people, knowing nothing else but the differences in our appearances? NO

Where do you get off thinking they deserve it?

I'll bite. Me being all *icky* when stuck on a plane as that...skin...rolls over onto me might be shallow. But damn! Ugh! Only a few people are allowed to touch me, not strangers! And certainly not like that, with rolls! Call me shallow for that! I'll agree.

Better? I AM in better health.
Nothing different than appearance? There's more than just appearances. I could give a litany of things that are different, just on health alone. Factual base.

Lets not get stuck on the who's a better person on the inside (in the morals/personality). This isn't about skin color. It isn't about where they were born. This about the personal choices THEY made to be where they are physical condition. And that choice affects me, by...space...or by wallet, then I will form a strong opinion about it.

Now, to your point of disgusted looks and treatment, I will say that's over the line. Heck, I've corrected my kids from pointing and saying things aloud. However, I am going point out it is NOT the way to live (privately to them). That is not a lifestyle I support in any way.

[Cooter]

people who are awesome fat like me I don't treat differently...

people with marshmallow/cottage cheese fat like the ladies above I do look down on... part of that is being 6'5" though

[cobrajet69]

..... Oh, and they ALL have thyroid problems...it isnt your thyroid. It's your self-control.

LMFAO


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David