Do you treat fat people differently?

[jdgregory84]

I'm going to the gym.

[ELVIS]

my pockets are fatter than my belly!

god bless.

[lowthreeohz]

And fat is the only thing that causes money to come out of your pockets? Enough money in fact, that it's okay to be down right shitty to them and belittle them?

You're right.. it's only costing a few billion dollars a year.

Direct medical costs are easiest to calculate, coming in at $93 billion, or 9%, of our national medical bill.

Obese people miss more work, costing employers something on the order of $4 billion.

employers never pay most obesity costs. Instead, they get passed onto the government through Medicare.

Oh.. but i don't pay into medic....oh wait i do. shit.

Maybe we shouldn't be mean to people because they're fat, but i sure as hell have no problem being mean to them for being leeches on society.

[SlowLX]

You can put it however you want....

What's happening is that for one reason or another, people are making excuses as to why it's okay to treat people like shit.

If a big fat man at a buffet turns directly to you and asks for your opinion...open that slender mouth and let your opinions flow like his gravy blood does. If he didn't ask, then where do you get off thinking that for one god damn second you have the right or the obligation to say one fucking word about it?

Do fat people stop you and say your protruding ribs make them want to punch babies?


I'm not mad at you nor am I trying to aim this directly at you Spence, I'm using the phrase "you" to aim it at everyone who thinks their opinion was solicited or matters.

Fine YOU pay for his multiple bypasses he's going to have to survive another 5-10 years just so he can eat more KFC and Pizza Hut. If we as a nation didn't have to focus our medical care on treating people for being disgusting and unhealthy to a point of gluttony then maybe Dr's could spend the majority of their time working on worthwhile pursuits like horrible diseases that people have no option as to whether or not they get.

I don't take what you say personally kim, nor do I walk up to fat people and verbally try to get them to commit suicide (most of the time). I however lump obesity up there with the guy who needs a new liver at 40 because he drank like a college freshmen for 20 years straight. I have NO sympathy for people who waste their lives by over indulging in shit, poisoning their bodies, and then expect modern medicine to be able to save them at the last minute and help them lead happy normal lives. Maybe they shouldn't have had 30 JITB taco's a week for 20 years just like you'd say to a lifetime alcoholic maybe you shouldn't have put back a bottle of whiskey a day when he's on his death bed. Does it suck someone is wasting their life away to early grave in a fast food drive through? Yes, but 99% of time people don't get obese because of some psychological eating disorder they do it because of little respect for themselves and no foresight for their future.

[Trick Pony]

What gets me are the people that are obese and have no health issues. I have had to take blood pressure and cholesterol meds since my early 20s. I'm 5'10". At that time I was 155 lbs with 12% body fat. Bad genes I guess. I do cardio a few times a week and lift heavy weights several times a week. I'm 200 lbs now 15% body fat and still on meds.

[Stephen]

Im 5"10" and 186 i need to lose about 15 to look normal.. Mainly its a beergut due to drinking a lot every day

[SlowLX]

What gets me are the people that are obese and have no health issues. I have had to take blood pressure and cholesterol meds since my early 20s. I'm 5'10". At that time I was 155 lbs with 12% body fat. Bad genes I guess. I do cardio a few times a week and lift heavy weights several times a week. I'm 200 lbs now 15% body fat and still on meds.

No one spends their entire life being obese without having issues they're just ignoring them because their doctors appointment conflicted with an ice cream sale at Braum's.

[Nash B.]

my pockets are fatter than my belly!

god bless.

Your wife's pockets are fatter than your belly

[Skidmark]

So since we're assuming all obese people do not have medical insurance and have to leech off the system?

I guess it is also safe to assume all Hispanics are illegal and are leeching off the system?

Well, if anyone is Hispanic in here, go back to fucking Mexico you illegal piece of shit, i'm tired of paying for your anchor babies bills.

[Forever_frost]

I use www.fatsecret.com to track calories and exercise and everything. I cut down on having t bones for dinner every night, started cutting back on fast food and cokes. I drink a lot of unsweet iced tea but that's about it.

And who is the guy who sent me the "free consultation for natural weight loss"?

[mustang_revival]

I was going to leave this thread alone, then I thought about :

Gluttony
Main article: Gluttony
"Excess"
(Albert Anker, 1896)

Derived from the Latin gluttire, meaning to gulp down or swallow, gluttony (Latin, gula) is the over-indulgence and over-consumption of anything to the point of waste. In the Christian religions, it is considered a sin because of the excessive desire for food or its withholding from the needy.[10]

Depending on the culture, it can be seen as either a vice or a sign of status. Where food is relatively scarce, being able to eat well might be something to take pride in. But in an area where food is routinely plentiful, it may be considered a sign of self-control to resist the temptation to over-indulge.

Medieval church leaders (e.g., Thomas Aquinas) took a more expansive view of gluttony,[10] arguing that it could also include an obsessive anticipation of meals, and the constant eating of delicacies and excessively costly foods.[11] Aquinas went so far as to prepare a list of six ways to commit gluttony, including:

* Praepropere - eating too soon.
* Laute - eating too expensively.
* Nimis - eating too much.
* Ardenter - eating too eagerly (burningly).
* Studiose - eating too daintily (keenly).
* Forente - eating wildly (boringly).


Then in thinking about passing unnecessary judgment and talking bad about overweight people I re-read:

"Pride
Main article: Pride

In almost every list Pride (Latin, superbia), or hubris, is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, and the source of the others. It is identified as a desire to be more important or attractive than others, failing to acknowledge the good work of others, and excessive love of self (especially holding self out of proper position toward God). Dante's definition was "love of self perverted to hatred and contempt for one's neighbour." In Jacob Bidermann's medieval miracle play, Cenodoxus, pride is the deadliest of all the sins and leads directly to the damnation of the titulary famed Parisian doctor. In perhaps the best-known example, the story of Lucifer, pride (his desire to compete with God) was what caused his fall from Heaven, and his resultant transformation into Satan. In Dante's Divine Comedy, the penitents were forced to walk with stone slabs bearing down on their backs to induce feelings of humility."


It never fails the more I look outwardly at the things I have a problem with, I get directed to look back internally.

[lowthreeohz]

So since we're assuming all obese people do not have medical insurance and have to leech off the system?

I guess it is also safe to assume all Hispanics are illegal and are leeching off the system?

Well, if anyone is Hispanic in here, go back to fucking Mexico you illegal piece of shit, i'm tired of paying for your anchor babies bills.

Medical insurance.. how many people pay their share off in full? not many... they let it ride because "oh medical stuff cant hurt your credit"... then next billing cycle my rate goes up 33$ a month because why? I'm in no worse shape.. I haven't cost the insurance anything... but I'm paying a higher rate. It sure as fuck isn't because the country is getting healthier.

[SlowLX]

So since we're assuming all obese people do not have medical insurance and have to leech off the system?

I guess it is also safe to assume all Hispanics are illegal and are leeching off the system?

Well, if anyone is Hispanic in here, go back to fucking Mexico you illegal piece of shit, i'm tired of paying for your anchor babies bills.

Weather or not someone has health insurance doesn't change the fact that over their lifetime they'll require an almost unfair amount of medical money to keep their unhealthy lifestyle going. It's akin to when their fat ass walked into a all you can eat buffet and ate until they got kicked out. Morbidly obese people are quite possibly the only people getting their money's worth out of health insurance across their lifetime. Just because you have a health insurance doesn't give someone a legit excuse to order 2 value meals with lunch because 1 BigMac just won't cut it. Nice deflection at a separate issue, I'd RATHER pay for every single anchor baby than all the fucking money wasted on people with heart disease because they chose to slowly commit suicide with their horrible eating habits. If someone wants to spend their entire life being more than 50 lbs overweight...fine that's their prerogative but it's not my social responsibility to keep their fat ass on life support.

[lowthreeohz]

I'm curious how many fat people actually acknowledge the fact that they're fat.

[Skidmark]

There sure is a lot of speculation in this thread.