Not sure what to think

[Treasure Chest]

Be a man son, the woman gave birth to you. Sure she wasn't there to wipe the snot from your nose but she put you on this planet and without her you would still be floating in your daddy's sack.

I have to respectfully disagree here. Opening your legs makes one as much of a mother as removing a splinter makes someone a doctor. His grandparents were his parents and he has no obligations to a woman that turned her back on him and only pursued a relationship for selfish reasons.

This has nothing to do with manning up, it's all about self-preservation. He needs to do what's best for his emotional well being.

Edit: Frost, I just read your last reply. With all the variables, I'm not exactly sure what guilt you're referring to, but I know I felt quite a bit of guilt because I felt absolutely nothing for the sperm donor's passing.

With her cancer, she's not a viable candidate for your kidney, and her passing is just a matter of time. If you're still seeing your therapist, I would really recommend you start talking to him ASAP so you can start preparing for the inevitable.

[Z06killinsbf]

I would say go because you can always regret you went but you can never go back because you didn't. Just blend in and bring no attention to yourself. At least that is what I would do. Maybe you'll find something when you're not looking.

Go to support your brother.

[mikec]

Jennifer is the freaking bomb...

[talisman]

I have to respectfully disagree here. Opening your legs makes one as much of a mother as removing a splinter makes someone a doctor. His grandparents were his parents and he has no obligations to a woman that turned her back on him and only pursued a relationship for selfish reasons.

This has nothing to do with manning up, it's all about self-preservation. He needs to do what's best for his emotional well being.

Edit: Frost, I just read your last reply. With all the variables, I'm not exactly sure what guilt you're referring to, but I know I felt quite a bit of guilt because I felt absolutely nothing for the sperm donor's passing.

With her cancer, she's not a viable candidate for your kidney, and her passing is just a matter of time. If you're still seeing your therapist, I would really recommend you start talking to him ASAP so you can start preparing for the inevitable.

100% spot on. Great post Jen.

[Forever_frost]

I have to respectfully disagree here. Opening your legs makes one as much of a mother as removing a splinter makes someone a doctor. His grandparents were his parents and he has no obligations to a woman that turned her back on him and only pursued a relationship for selfish reasons.

This has nothing to do with manning up, it's all about self-preservation. He needs to do what's best for his emotional well being.

Edit: Frost, I just read your last reply. With all the variables, I'm not exactly sure what guilt you're referring to, but I know I felt quite a bit of guilt because I felt absolutely nothing for the sperm donor's passing.

With her cancer, she's not a viable candidate for your kidney, and her passing is just a matter of time. If you're still seeing your therapist, I would really recommend you start talking to him ASAP so you can start preparing for the inevitable.

I still have 3 months before my next shrink visit. Good thing about the VA, if you're having an issue but you're not trying to kill yourself, it's 3-4 months between mental health visits

[stinginstang]

I thought I was the only one with a crazy loon parent.

[Treasure Chest]

I still have 3 months before my next shrink visit. Good thing about the VA, if you're having an issue but you're not trying to kill yourself, it's 3-4 months between mental health visits

Damn. Is there anyone else that you trust to talk to? Someone who's neutral on the issue, but would give advice in your best interest?

[helosailor]

I have to respectfully disagree here. Opening your legs makes one as much of a mother as removing a splinter makes someone a doctor. His grandparents were his parents and he has no obligations to a woman that turned her back on him and only pursued a relationship for selfish reasons.

This has nothing to do with manning up, it's all about self-preservation. He needs to do what's best for his emotional well being.

Edit: Frost, I just read your last reply. With all the variables, I'm not exactly sure what guilt you're referring to, but I know I felt quite a bit of guilt because I felt absolutely nothing for the sperm donor's passing.

With her cancer, she's not a viable candidate for your kidney, and her passing is just a matter of time. If you're still seeing your therapist, I would really recommend you start talking to him ASAP so you can start preparing for the inevitable.

All of this, 100%.

Jennifer is the freaking bomb...

Bomb-diggity, even.

100% spot on. Great post Jen.

Yessir!



Jim, I honestly don't see why you should feel any guilt. She wanted nothing to do with you unless she wanted something from you.

[Treasure Chest]

I thought I was the only one with a crazy loon parent.

Unfortunately, it's the curse of our generation. Not too long ago, I read that generation x was primarily reared by single parents and grandparents.

[Couver]

If you have been raised around extended family and it is close from the outside looking in it is amazing. I was never around the huge amounts of family I was raised a coast away. Just thought it was normal.

Mr the Frost you have to many injuries from combat to even try and think about giving up a kidney. Plus it sounds like it would be a wasted endeavor anyways. Give back what you get from family it is a two way street. Sounds like you are trying on your end... If they don't reciprocate then sleep well and look out for you and yours.

Thank you again for your service.

[Couver]

Be a man son, the woman gave birth to you. Sure she wasn't there to wipe the snot from your nose but she put you on this planet and without her you would still be floating in your daddy's sack.

Hmmpph.. Was not going to even give this post credence but you trying to tell him to be a man is sad... Frost has proven that more then a few times over and does not need to prove it to anyone... He has made many tracks on the land.

[Downs]

What'd I'd do? Not go and never contact her again probably. Sounds like the only reason she got in contact with you to begin with was to harvest a kidney from you to prolong her life a little longer.

I'm of the firm belief that you can infact choose who your family is. I've had family on both sides I pretty much disowned.

My uncle on my moms side has been burnt out on drugs for along time (he holds a CDL too if that makes you feel better). With out my nearly 90 year old grandfather around he'd be dead in a gutter somewhere or in prison. I haven't spoken to him in 2 years now and he lives right next door to my parents. He's a dirt bag and unstable. Invovling him in my life doesn't do anybody any good and I refuse to deal with the bullshit and drama that comes along with it.

Same for some folks on my dad's side of the family.

[Forever_frost]

What'd I'd do? Not go and never contact her again probably. Sounds like the only reason she got in contact with you to begin with was to harvest a kidney from you to prolong her life a little longer.

I'm of the firm belief that you can infact choose who your family is. I've had family on both sides I pretty much disowned.

My uncle on my moms side has been burnt out on drugs for along time (he holds a CDL too if that makes you feel better). With out my nearly 90 year old grandfather around he'd be dead in a gutter somewhere or in prison. I haven't spoken to him in 2 years now and he lives right next door to my parents. He's a dirt bag and unstable. Invovling him in my life doesn't do anybody any good and I refuse to deal with the bullshit and drama that comes along with it.

Same for some folks on my dad's side of the family.

She called my brother this morning and told him she loved him before she did it. I agree, she's never given me anything. When I was a baby, my mom (grandmother) told me she'd come over and Lori would have the apartment window open with rain blowing in on me in the crib.

The reason I asked yall is because since I've been back, I look to others for what my emotional response should be on things. Emotions confuse me and I don't react the way others do now. My wife pretty much feeds me cue cards when she sees me trying to figure an emotional response out. It's pretty amusing to watch from the outside.


As far as is there anyone I can talk to neutral? No. I'm the strong one in my family and friends. Everyone has some sort of emotional issue that they come to me on, but doesn't go back the other way.

[Forever_frost]

My uncle on my moms side has been burnt out on drugs for along time (he holds a CDL too if that makes you feel better). With out my nearly 90 year old grandfather around he'd be dead in a gutter somewhere or in prison. I haven't spoken to him in 2 years now and he lives right next door to my parents. He's a dirt bag and unstable. Invovling him in my life doesn't do anybody any good and I refuse to deal with the bullshit and drama that comes along with it.

Same for some folks on my dad's side of the family.

Interesting. My father is the same way. Long history of meth use and has a CDL AND is starting with a trucking company this week

[talisman]

She called my brother this morning and told him she loved him before she did it. I agree, she's never given me anything. When I was a baby, my mom (grandmother) told me she'd come over and Lori would have the apartment window open with rain blowing in on me in the crib.

The reason I asked yall is because since I've been back, I look to others for what my emotional response should be on things. Emotions confuse me and I don't react the way others do now. My wife pretty much feeds me cue cards when she sees me trying to figure an emotional response out. It's pretty amusing to watch from the outside.


As far as is there anyone I can talk to neutral? No. I'm the strong one in my family and friends. Everyone has some sort of emotional issue that they come to me on, but doesn't go back the other way.

Well, for what it is worth, Jen is firing on all cylinders in her responses.