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  • Twins born 18 months after dad died denied survivor benefits

    But it isn't what you think. I honestly can't figure out the right answer to this one.


    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court on Monday ruled that a man's children who were conceived through artificial insemination after his death cannot get Social Security survivor benefits.

    Justices unanimously ruled that twins born to Robert Capato's surviving wife Karen did not qualify for survivor benefits because of a requirement that the federal government use state inheritance laws.

    The Capato twins, conceived using Robert Capato's frozen sperm, were born 18 months after their father died of esophageal cancer. Karen Capato's application for survivor benefits on behalf of the twins was rejected by the Social Security Administration, which said Robert Capato needed to be alive during the children's conception to qualify. A federal judge agreed, saying they had to qualify as Capato's children before his death or qualify under state inheritance law as children who could legally inherit.

    Capato died a Florida resident, and Florida law expressly bars children conceived posthumously from inheritance, unless they are named in a will. The only beneficiaries named in Capato's will are his wife, their son and his two children from a previous marriage.

    The 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia overturned that decision, saying the Capato twins were clearly the biological children of Robert Capato and deserved the survivor benefits. But other federal appellate courts have ruled differently in similar cases, leaving the Supreme Court to come to a final conclusion.

    "We find the Social Security Administration's ruling better attuned to the statute's text and its design to benefit primarily those the deceased wage earner actually supported in his or her lifetime," Ginsburg said. "And even if the agency's longstanding interpretation is not the only reasonable one, it is at least a permissible construction entitled to deference."

    The case was heard by the Philadelphia appeals court because Karen Capato unsuccessfully argued that her children should have been considered citizens of New Jersey, which has different inheritance laws from Florida. The twins were conceived in Florida, but Karen Capato moved to New Jersey during the pregnancy.

    Ginsburg called Robert Capato's death before he and his wife could provide their children with additional siblings "tragic."

    But "the law Congress enacted calls for resolution of Karen Capato's application for child's insurance benefits by reference to state intestacy law," she said. "We cannot replace that reference by creating a uniform federal rule that statute's text scarcely supports."

  • #2
    Fine with it - why do people think gov't money is free?

    Mom made a choice to get pregnant and if her mentality is that the gov't should pay to help raise then fuck her. Get a job and stop sucking of the government tit.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jedi View Post
      Fine with it - why do people think gov't money is free?

      Mom made a choice to get pregnant and if her mentality is that the gov't should pay to help raise then fuck her. Get a job and stop sucking of the government tit.
      I agree 110%

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jedi View Post
        Fine with it - why do people think gov't money is free?

        Mom made a choice to get pregnant and if her mentality is that the gov't should pay to help raise then fuck her. Get a job and stop sucking of the government tit.
        you posted what i was going to say

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        • #5
          Agreed! Come on.. 18 months later, and gov money should help take care of them? I think not!

          Lyn

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jedi View Post
            Fine with it - why do people think gov't money is free?

            Mom made a choice to get pregnant and if her mentality is that the gov't should pay to help raise then fuck her. Get a job and stop sucking of the government tit.
            Yup, she is just trying to get free money.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jedi View Post
              Fine with it - why do people think gov't money is free?

              Mom made a choice to get pregnant and if her mentality is that the gov't should pay to help raise then fuck her. Get a job and stop sucking of the government tit.
              Couldn't agree more.

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              • #8
                Well. You've all convinced me. lolz

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                • #9
                  Seems pretty straight forward to me. The twins didn't survive his passing, no survivor benefits.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 71chevellejohn View Post
                    Seems pretty straight forward to me. The twins didn't survive his passing, no survivor benefits.
                    I'll chime in and agree as well. No survivor benefits, while they are biologically his, they suffered nothing by his passing and weren't inconvenienced. This is a case of a woman seeing her bread winner die and then taking her backup plan to fruition and then trying to get a payout for life
                    I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                    • #11
                      Octomom jr

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                      • #12
                        No problem.

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                        • #13
                          I'm for whatever decreases government dependence.
                          "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                          "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                          • #14
                            And another thought... If they've got the money to freeze/store his swimmers - I would think they should have enough savings/insurance to support the family at least long enough for the survivor to find a source of income(not the government, either).
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                            • #15
                              Fuck her, and the test tube she rode in on!

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