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  • #31
    Originally posted by lo3oz View Post
    Anyone who thinks employees should work for free is out of their fucking mind.
    Its really this simple.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by lo3oz View Post
      Anyone who thinks employees should work for free is out of their fucking mind.
      Exactly

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      • #33
        Originally posted by yellowstang View Post
        I'm sure the 27,000 HP employees getting laid off feel the loyalty ffrom the company. Take care of number 1, no job (unless it is a small business usually) will really care about it's employees, just the bottom line.
        HP made 1.6B in profit in a single quarter, but they still plan on dumping 8% of their workforce.


        I will work my ass off for a GOOD company and a GOOD boss. Unfortunately, the last 3 i have worked for have had some serious ethical issues, with either top-level firings, investigations, or regulatory fines being issued for serious problems.

        After being loyal to these kind of people for years, i have developed an entirely mercenary attitude towards work. I am not doing anything unless i see a benefit to me; its that simple.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by 32vfromhell View Post
          HP made 1.6B in profit in a single quarter, but they still plan on dumping 8% of their workforce.
          Upper managment has to cut from somewhere to increase their bonuses
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Kyle View Post
            How about a little loyalty to your employer. For years I used to do stuff off the clock when I ran a lube center. I'd come in early and stay late. I understood how important it was to my boss and when he could, he would throw a bonus in or let me take a long lunch etc. Although my rewards were few and far between, I knew he really appreciated it.

            While working for the mortgage company, I was salary so they didn't care how many hours I worked. I was a damn slave to that place, but something inside me would never let me leave unless every last bit of my work was complete. I would strive to do my job to the best of my ability and some weeks I would put in 60+ hours for the same amount of pay! Screwed up part about thaeet job was that I loved the job, but hated management!

            Now that I own my own business, it is a huge help to me when my guys help with things that they don't necessarily get paid for. I don't make them do it and don't threaten to fire them if they don't want to help out, but when they do I hope they can see how much I appreciate what they've done. I go out of my way to help my employees when they need.

            I guess I'm cut from an old piece of cloth though. A strong work ethic was pounded into from a young age. I remember watching my Dad work 80+ hours a week when I was a kid and I never remember him complaining. He was working hard to provide for his family and that's all he cared about. He was a commission paid route salesman. He fought for every last sale he could get and some weeks barely scratched out enough to provide for us. Then when I was old enough to work, I was helping my Granddad on Saturdays and Sundays while he was building fence panels. I never got paid for that, but the thought was that he was teaching me how to put in a day of hard work. Having these two men taught me a hard lesson! I know how to work hard, put in long hours for low pay, and smile the next morning when I get to work to do it all again.

            Now to come full circle for the OP. If you don't like the job your wife is doing, then have her find another. No one said she has to work for free! Hell, she doesn't have to work at all if she doesn't want. Instead of stirring up shit for the employer just have her find another place of employment. She can stay with this job just long enough until she can find a replacement. Remember, it's a privilege to work and to have a job, not a right. Half of what's wrong with this country is people that are looking for ways to screw the system instead of just putting in a little extra effort to do their job.
            Loyalty? Did you just say loyalty? Apparently you missed the last 15 years.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Chili View Post
              Bottom line, and this is fact, is that non-exempt (hourly) employees must be paid for ALL time worked. This situation is especially bad because they are REQUIRING it. But even if an employee decides to work extra time on their own, employers MUST still pay them or they will be subject to civil liability and fines.

              This is a HUGE no-no.

              BTW, that is Federal Law, not State. It is covered under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA).
              I believe the correct word is compensated not paid. If she's working early she should either be given longer breaks or leaving early if they are not going to pay...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by jewozzy View Post
                I believe the correct word is compensated not paid. If she's working early she should either be given longer breaks or leaving early if they are not going to pay...
                If I were writing in an official manner I would, but this is DFWMustangs, so I write to my audience.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by LANTIRN View Post
                  Also, Texas is right to work state, so I think that does make it a right. Plus there is the whole ninth amendment thing going on as well.
                  Do you even have a clue what right to work means? Do you have a clue what the 9th amendment means? What a moron.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by talisman View Post
                    They can't "make" her do any work off the clock. It's illegal. That being said, be prepared for her to be fired once she tells them to fuck off.
                    This.

                    My wife worked at a daycare for about 9 months. They constantly had her doing stuff off the clock. Buying stuff and not reimbursing her. The straw that broke the camels back was when they gave her a lead position and told her she would get an increase since it was a promotion. She waited 3 months and asked about it and they said they wouldn't be giving her a raise. She said she won't be a lead anymore and they told her she didn't have a choice. Eventually they told my wife to leave.

                    She had to fight for her unemployment.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Kyle View Post
                      Half of what's wrong with this country is people that are looking for ways to screw the system instead of just putting in a little extra effort to do their job.
                      And the other half of what is wrong with this country is fuckers that expect their employers work for them for free...

                      Stevo
                      Originally posted by SSMAN
                      ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                      • #41
                        Instead of all this BS advice she should simply clock in and then start her daily task. Then let her employer explain how they intend to fuck her over. After that you know where you stand. I need a beer!

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                        • #42
                          she needs to document everything, then right before she's about to turn in her notice, pipe up that she's not going to work off the clock, then get fired, THEN sue. What is this, amateur hour?

                          oh, and FYK
                          http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/...iversal-truth/

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                          • #43
                            "Right to Work" means not having to join a Union to get a job, even if other employees in that business/shop are covered by a Union.
                            Natural law. Sons are put on this earth to trouble their fathers.

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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by FastFox View Post
                              Kyle has it figured out. If you don't like what you are asked to do, go work at another place. I am not saying you should be taken advantage of, but just move on. Also, if you start something with a lawyer, that stuff gets out, and no one will want to hire you. Just find other employment.
                              Ok. So, you move on because you have the education or are just lucky enough to find a better job. Now what happens to the person that replaces you? Don't they deserve to be treated fairly? They may not be so lucky to be able to get out.

                              You guys are treating the symptom and not the the disease. What's wrong with standing up and facing problems instead of running from them?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by GE View Post
                                Do you even have a clue what right to work means? Do you have a clue what the 9th amendment means? What a moron.
                                Easy. You have the right to work, or not, and Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.






                                see if anyone gets it

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