'El Loco' Arrested After 49 Beheaded Bodies Found

[CJ]

OK lets all assume CJ is right here, that mexico COULD do something about it.
Right ?
ok so what does history show us ?
the best mexico has EVER done in 40 years + of drugs coming up from south of them is what ?
agree with the cartels on where they could traffic.
That's it. That is with our help , money, and attempts in columbia to eradicate growers of poppy , etc.

That's it.
Yet CJ says he's looked over the figures and he still thinks it's possible for them to stem teh flow of drugs here.
The best they've ever accomplished is stemming the flow of DEATH , and that was only through the equivalent of a truce with govt officials.

Remember this is with us going there and training then in special operations warefare, to which a huge group of them defected and started their own gang now . Which ironically is now in partial control of mexico partially because of our fault in training them.
Oh and we also shipped them some guns too for fun.
So how are they supposed to 'do their own' part when we keep fucking it up for them on so many levels? The majority of which is just DEMAND for drugs.

Summary of what you just typed: Mexico can't do anything. You're full of great solutions... why are you so butt hurt bro? You got something you want to tell me about?

[CJ]

You're thinking too small. Pot isn't something that has to be produced, like a Panasonic TV. People can grow their own for almost nothing.

Who said anything about pot? All drugs. If it's made legal they will tax it to hell, and Mexico will still have the preferred source.

[talisman]

who said anything about pot? All drugs. If it's made legal they will tax it to hell, and Mexico will still have the preferred source.

You think the richest country on the planet won't pay a couple extra bucks for something with an FDA stamp on it, or find a way to make it themselves? And people say I'm a pessimist. How many people do you see smoking black market cigarettes, since they are now what, $6 a pack?

[32vfromhell]

Repealing Prohibition didn't stop the mob. Didn't even hurt their power, either. They just found something else to control.


Mexico was a shithole BEFORE drugs were ever an issue. In that regard, nothing has changed.

[futant]

I'd have to say it's better than most countries efforts. However the real issue is the border security, or lack thereof. In my opinion it's easier to find 1000 suppliers in Mexico than 18 million users in basements in the US. Demand will always be an issue, always. You make it legal in the US, the government will tax the shit out of it and Mexico will still have a cheaper product. Sure it will be less but it will still be there. That is a fairytale solution I wish was true.

LOLthis is the funniest shit ever

[CJ]

You think the richest country on the planet won't pay a couple extra bucks for something with an FDA stamp on it, or find a way to make it themselves? And people say I'm a pessimist.

Do you think crack, marijuana, cocaine, etc. will ever be legalized? I highly, highly doubt that - maybe MJ one distant day. None of what anyone is whining about in here is a solution. Everyone seems to advocate absolving Mexico of any blame, and then produce no real solutions themselves. Futant seems to be convinced he has the solution, even though he produces none and finds faults with anything proposed. The cartels can be stopped with the proper strategy, and this whole defeatist mentality is just pathetic.

[talisman]

Repealing Prohibition didn't stop the mob. Didn't even hurt their power, either. They just found something else to control.

As long as vice is viewed as something to be legislated, the cycle will repeat.

[CJ]

LOLthis is the funniest shit ever

translation: I don't have anything intelligent to say.

[futant]

Summary of what you just typed: Mexico can't do anything. You're full of great solutions... why are you so butt hurt bro? You got something you want to tell me about?

what are you talking about? do you have a rebuttal ?
it's all so black and white like you said.
I 'm just pointing out the obvious in historical sense and why they have NEVER been able to do anything about it.
The amount of drugs going through mexico is massive, even the border patrol knows they catch nothing, less than 1% and you say mexico can do something about it even though they are poor.

the solution is to legalize some or all drugs and take all the money you can from the cartels. Many in this thread have said that, but I'll repeat it if you want to hear it from me.

[CJ]

As long as vice is viewed as something to be legislated, the cycle will repeat.

It isn't just vice. There would be zero crime if there was no laws. It's all relative to the kind of society you wish to live in.

[CJ]

what are you talking about? do you have a rebuttal ?
it's all so black and white like you said.
I 'm just pointing out the obvious in historical sense and why they have NEVER been able to do anything about it.
The amount of drugs going through mexico is massive, even the border patrol knows they catch nothing, less than 1% and you say mexico can do something about it even though they are poor.

the solution is to legalize some or all drugs and take all the money you can from the cartels. Many in this thread have said that, but I'll repeat it if you want to hear it from me.

We've been through this about 5 posts ago, you were too busy getting butthurt and overlooked it apparently.

[talisman]

Do you think crack, marijuana, cocaine, etc. will ever be legalized? I highly, highly doubt that - maybe MJ one distant day. None of what anyone is whining about in here is a solution. Everyone seems to advocate absolving Mexico of any blame, and then produce no real solutions themselves. Futant seems to be convinced he has the solution, even though he produces none and finds faults with anything proposed. The cartels can be stopped with the proper strategy, and this whole defeatist mentality is just pathetic.

I think pot will be at the least decriminalized in our lifetime. It is already headed that way with what, 18 states? I doubt it on the rest. If it is, I'm going to Nevada and snorting a line off a hookers ass.

Who absolved Mexico of ALL blame? On the contrary, it appears to me you are absolving the US of ANY responsibility. Like I said, it isn't black and white. We're in the middle of a parasite/host situation that we largely created. Accepting responsibility for it is the first step to understanding it and working towards a solution.

[ELVIS]

eric = el loco

god bless.

[talisman]

It isn't just vice. There would be zero crime if there was no laws. It's all relative to the kind of society you wish to live in.

In the society I'd like to live in, people mind their own business and don't intentionally hurt others. That is pretty much it. And when you get down to it, every law that is created is made around the idea of not hurting others. We should just simplify it.

[talisman]

eric = el loco

god bless.

You done fucked up now, ese!