'El Loco' Arrested After 49 Beheaded Bodies Found

[dville_gt]

lol @ the tags. i don't tune on drugs btw!

[talisman]

You can argue the social inequities religion places on society forever. The facts are Mexico has lost control of their country. Is it their country, not ours. Any solution that completely absolves them from any responsibility is ludicrous. Every country on the world has problems with black markets. Mexico has been particularly belligerent in their attempts to control their country. It is their responsibility to do this, not ours.

Everything isn't black and white dude. In fact, pretty much NOTHING is ever black and white. We certainly shoulder some of the blame, as they do they. There is plenty to go around. Do you think we have a good grasp on drug enforcement in this country?

[dville_gt]

Drugs are legal in mexico for recreational use.

I'm pretty sure you're mistaken.

Exactly, it is illegal to manufacture, sell, or buy it. My reference was Mexico is not enforcing their own laws.

Not sure how you are claiming you were somehow right when you said he was mistaken.

[talisman]

Drugs are legal in mexico for recreational use.

I'm pretty sure you're mistaken.

Exactly, it is illegal to manufacture, sell, or buy it. My reference was Mexico is not enforcing their own laws.

He said they were legal for recreational use, not manufacturing, selling, or buying. I'm just saying.

[CJ]

LOL CJ , yeah the problem is mexico's fault.
do some math
do some reading on the amount of illegals drugs being sent here from south of mexico
it's unstoppable. Mexico just got the shit end of the stick.

No, they can't do anything about it. They would need all our money to defend their country, and we would also fail too.
The drug war is a joke and it always has been. Only the stupid, purposely blind left like yourself don't see how this is happening. (supply and demand, a powerful market force)

Even when we 'win' and pull a wooping 1% of drugs off the street in yet again a 'huge' bust, drug prices go up, and the cartels make more money.
we eliminate a cartel, another makes even more money.
squeeze here , balloon gets bigger over there. rinse and repeat for 40 years!
Americans are the problem, and the problem is we have the most money and an insatiable desire for drugs (of all kinds legal and illegal)

LOL yeah futant, Mexico isn't even involved here. Let's not even mention them anymore. I have a good understanding on all of the figures involved. I am just sick and fucking tired of people acting like Mexico plays no part, and has no responsibility to do anything on their end. It's fucking ridiculous.

[CJ]

He said they were legal for recreational use, not manufacturing, selling, or buying. I'm just saying.

Correct, in reference to me citing Mexico has failing to enforce their own laws (which they are).

[dville_gt]

he said they were legal for recreational use, not manufacturing, selling, or buying. I'm just saying.

lol!

[CJ]

Everything isn't black and white dude. In fact, pretty much NOTHING is ever black and white. We certainly shoulder some of the blame, as they do they. There is plenty to go around. Do you think we have a good grasp on drug enforcement in this country?

My point is we don't have 49 headless bodies every few weeks, people hanging from bridges, etc.

[ceyko]

Another one of those issues where true border security could help quite a bit. I agree with legalization too.

[talisman]

My point is we don't have 49 headless bodies every few weeks, people hanging from bridges, etc.

I don't think anyone is surprised by that dude. We're the richest country in the world. They... Are not. It's pretty easy to buy people when their monthly salary equates to what you or I would spend at Wendy's for lunch.

[CJ]

I don't think anyone is surprised by that dude. We're the richest country in the world. They... Are not. It's pretty easy to buy people when their monthly salary equates to what you or I would spend at Wendy's for lunch.

They have plenty of money to control the situation. Countries have been taken over with no money at all, just a will to get it done. Mexico is not America, the have to get their shit taken care of themselves. We send them billions of dollars to do it as well.

[talisman]

They have plenty of money to control the situation. Countries have been taken over with no money at all, just a will to get it done. Mexico is not America, the have to get their shit taken care of themselves. We send them billions of dollars to do it as well.

Which brings me back to my previous question. Do you think drug enforcement in THIS country is at all effective? Aside from the whole not having 49 headless bodies on I20 and all.

[CJ]

Which brings me back to my previous question. Do you think drug enforcement in THIS country is at all effective? Aside from the whole not having 49 headless bodies on I20 and all.

I'd have to say it's better than most countries efforts. However the real issue is the border security, or lack thereof. In my opinion it's easier to find 1000 suppliers in Mexico than 18 million users in basements in the US. Demand will always be an issue, always. You make it legal in the US, the government will tax the shit out of it and Mexico will still have a cheaper product. Sure it will be less but it will still be there. That is a fairytale solution I wish was true.

[futant]

OK lets all assume CJ is right here, that mexico COULD do something about it.
Right ?
ok so what does history show us ?
the best mexico has EVER done in 40 years + of drugs coming up from south of them is what ?
agree with the cartels on where they could traffic.
That's it. That is with our help , money, and attempts in columbia to eradicate growers of poppy , etc.

That's it.
Yet CJ says he's looked over the figures and he still thinks it's possible for them to stem teh flow of drugs here.
The best they've ever accomplished is stemming the flow of DEATH , and that was only through the equivalent of a truce with govt officials.

Remember this is with us going there and training then in special operations warefare, to which a huge group of them defected and started their own cartel now . Which is now in partial control of mexico too.
Oh and we also shipped them some guns too for fun.
So how are they supposed to 'do their own' part when we keep fucking it up for them on so many levels? The majority of which is just DEMAND for drugs.

[talisman]

I'd have to say it's better than most countries efforts. However the real issue is the border security, or lack thereof. In my opinion it's easier to find 1000 suppliers in Mexico than 18 million users in basements in the US. Demand will always be an issue, always. You make it legal in the US, the government will tax the shit out of it and Mexico will still have a cheaper product. Sure it will be less but it will still be there. That is a fairytale solution I wish was true.

You're thinking too small. Pot isn't something that has to be produced, like a Panasonic TV. People can grow their own for almost nothing.