FTP on this one

[Broncojohnny]

You are sadly mistaken if you think this to be true. I still get PMs requesting me for info and advice.

Just because you are a piece of shit, don't think I am too.

Oh no, I guess I won't be getting a Christmas card from my favorite bottom feeding government worker. That's a real shame. The fact that you don't think you have damaged the opinions of people of this board (and simultaneously made yourself look like a complete dog dick) just proves to me that you are delusional. Bring out some more personal attacks on people, those are a big hit.

[mikec]

And for todays installment...

These cock jockeys in blue wrote the guy up, and then told him he would have been in jail for child endangerment, had he saved the Jeep instead of his child. Bottom line is this guy was donating to the fund either way. Really jacked up!

"A New Jersey dad got the scare of his life when his 5-year-old son almost ran off a steep embankment, and though the man saved the boy from falling, he couldn't stop his Jeep from going over the precipice and into a river below.

The reward for his ordeal? Two traffic tickets from local police.

Frank Roder, a construction worker from the town of Winfield Park, had taken his son, Aidan, down to the Rahway River to feed ducks Thursday. But when he stopped briefly before settling on a parking space, the impatient boy jumped out and took off -- straight toward a ledge 35 feet above the river, Roder recalled.

"He hopped out, and I thought that was OK, I was just going to park," Roder, 38, said, but "he just took off, made a beeline for the edge."
The panic-stricken father jumped out of the cab of his 2006 Jeep Commander and raced after the errant boy, catching him just feet from the edge.

That's when Aidan, eyes as big as saucers, looked behind Roder and said, "Um, Daddy ..."

Roder turned in time to see the Jeep nosedive down the embankment and land in the muddy water.


Roder hugged the boy and waited as Union County police converged on the scene over the next few hours. A crane pulled the Jeep out, and amazingly, it started right up, though Roder is pretty sure his insurance company will count it as totaled.

He was counting his blessings when a young cop approached him and handed him two tickets. One was for failure to produce the insurance card, which was somewhere in the waterlogged cab. The other was for failing to use his emergency brake.

"I couldn't believe it," Roder said. "He said, 'If you would have taken the five seconds to apply the brake, this never would have happened!'

"I say, 'Really? And if I did and my boy stepped over the edge and fell instead of the Jeep, then were would I be?' He says, 'Jail, for child endangerment.'"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/21/saves-his-kid-loses-his-car-and-gets-ticket/?test=latestnews

[LANTIRN]

Really?

So just quit and run away? I'll leave the cowardice to you.

You need to reread what I said; I gave you two (2) options. You choose not to do either and as a result you are going to be lumped in with the "bad cops" until I (or we taxpayers) see examples set that prove to us you are not " one of them". You have the power to file complaints with supervision on any cop that violates laws and rights; done properly and with enough proof and with you giving a shit, you coukd really make some strides in cleaning up your force. Failure to turn them in on your part is as bad as you committing the offence itself. What do they call that in law when you are guilty of a crime just because you had knowledge of it taking place and not reporting? You know, the same shit civilians get arrest for but cops turn a blind eye to when cops are involved.

[mikec]

I'll take "Accomplice" for $1500 Alex!

[LANTIRN]

I'll take "Accomplice" for $1500 Alex!

Lol thanks! I couldn't think of that to save my life this morning.

[Forever_frost]

If the exemption is a legal exemption allowed for the performance of lawful duties, then yes.

There should be no legal exemption, that's the point. Is there a legal exemption for a cop in plain clothes with his uniform in the back window, holding a cup of coffee and talking on the phone blasting past me at 90 while weaving in traffic? No? He passed another city cop who didn't even blink. If it was me, I'd be having to get an attorney

[Forever_frost]

You have no idea how I treat people. Just like I don't know how you treated people when you were in the Army.

You don't have to know how I treated people while in the Army because:

1. I retain no power here in the states
2. I was governed by FAR stricter rules in the treatment of people actively trying to kill me in Iraq
3. Someone could point a rifle in my face while yelling and I had to, and I'm not kidding, treat them for a cut from taking their rifle from them (front sight post got caught on their hand when I took it away) and then I handed their loaded rifle back and sent them on their way.
4. I had no arrest powers
5. If we kicked in a door, we had to be 100% sure it was the right one, every time.
6. No kicking in random doors and opening fire on civilians because we 'thought' they had something or a 'confidential informant' told us something.

[Machx2]

You don't have to know how I treated people while in the Army because:

5. If we kicked in a door, we had to be 100% sure it was the right one, every time.
6. No kicking in random doors and opening fire on civilians because we 'thought' they had something or a 'confidential informant' told us something.

I will say this, as an officer I have never kicked in a door I wasn't supposed to. In the military, it happened far too often. We did building searches on tons of houses, looking for one person. Of course, that would be illegal here.

[Forever_frost]

I will say this, as an officer I have never kicked in a door I wasn't supposed to. In the military, it happened far too often. We did building searches on tons of houses, looking for one person. Of course, that would be illegal here.

I can point you to numerous instances of cops doing it here. Would you like the mayor of a city face down in a puddle of his dog's blood one or the chainsaw through a door one?

[kingjason]

I can point you to numerous instances of cops doing it here. Would you like the mayor of a city face down in a puddle of his dog's blood one or the chainsaw through a door one?

There are tons of stories on military misconduct and thats just what is reported. Please do not act like everyone in the military is held to a higher standard when they are in the middle of no where with no one watching. You forget there are tons of ex and active military in law enforcement and we hear the stories. I have great respect for people in the armed forces so do not take this as an attack. I am not sure what has happened to you in the past that you are so hell bent on searching the internet for police stories all day but wow.

I also laugh at people thinking all police should be experts in every type of weapon made on the face of the earth. I must have missed that course somewhere. I also hate to break it to you but they have BB and water guns that my pistol light will snap right on to and they look exactly like the real deal. Hell these kids will paint over the orange tip so they look even more real. I know its easy to judge all law enforcement by the stories you see on the news and if that is all you do every day is look for bad stories then you need a new hobby. Just like every other job out there you are going to have a percentage of bad apples, cowards, and other misc labels. I would wager the good around 85 percent, iffy 10 percent and bad 5 percent and most hiring standards are tough. I have guys that I have absolutly no interest in ever working with. You know they will be the last ones to show up on hot calls or just the opposite guys that fuck shit up a mile a minute. To be honest, a lot of the stories you post I just go wow what the fuck were they thinking but then there are others that could go either way depending on what happened. Even with the super strict hiring standards, back grounds, physical, lie detector tests, etc etc you still just never know what you are going to end up with.

A few weeks ago on a saturday in my city it was four officers and a sgt., and we handled exactly one hundred calls in a twelve hour shift. The bell rang at 1800 hours and the last one came in at 0445 hours. I have more years in then the other three combined but they are actually very good officers and willing to do right and learn. Think about the room for error shaggin that many calls in a shift with four people. I know it is easy to judge but sometimes you guys have no idea. I love my job and really enjoy helping people but this job is nothing like you see on TV. There are guys losing their jobs everyday for stupid shit and they should be you just do not see it on the news all the time like the other stories.

[kingjason]

These cock jockeys in blue wrote the guy up, and then told him he would have been in jail for child endangerment, had he saved the Jeep instead of his child. Bottom line is this guy was donating to the fund either way. Really jacked up!

"A New Jersey dad got the scare of his life when his 5-year-old son almost ran off a steep embankment, and though the man saved the boy from falling, he couldn't stop his Jeep from going over the precipice and into a river below.

The reward for his ordeal? Two traffic tickets from local police.

Frank Roder, a construction worker from the town of Winfield Park, had taken his son, Aidan, down to the Rahway River to feed ducks Thursday. But when he stopped briefly before settling on a parking space, the impatient boy jumped out and took off -- straight toward a ledge 35 feet above the river, Roder recalled.

"He hopped out, and I thought that was OK, I was just going to park," Roder, 38, said, but "he just took off, made a beeline for the edge."
The panic-stricken father jumped out of the cab of his 2006 Jeep Commander and raced after the errant boy, catching him just feet from the edge.

That's when Aidan, eyes as big as saucers, looked behind Roder and said, "Um, Daddy ..."

Roder turned in time to see the Jeep nosedive down the embankment and land in the muddy water.


Roder hugged the boy and waited as Union County police converged on the scene over the next few hours. A crane pulled the Jeep out, and amazingly, it started right up, though Roder is pretty sure his insurance company will count it as totaled.

He was counting his blessings when a young cop approached him and handed him two tickets. One was for failure to produce the insurance card, which was somewhere in the waterlogged cab. The other was for failing to use his emergency brake.

"I couldn't believe it," Roder said. "He said, 'If you would have taken the five seconds to apply the brake, this never would have happened!'

"I say, 'Really? And if I did and my boy stepped over the edge and fell instead of the Jeep, then were would I be?' He says, 'Jail, for child endangerment.'"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/21...est=latestnews

Dick move if it really happened as reported. I would need to see the layout of where he "parked" or dove out of the vehicle. You always have a chance of someone getting themselves into shit, calling the police, and then making up a crazy story on why their truck ended up in the water. The cops bullshit meter might have went full red then he got some citations. I generally give people the benefit of the doubt when I am not sure. I would rather them laugh and think they got over on me then to screw someone who actually had a crisis.

[Forever_frost]

There are tons of stories on military misconduct and thats just what is reported. Please do not act like everyone in the military is held to a higher standard when they are in the middle of no where with no one watching. You forget there are tons of ex and active military in law enforcement and we hear the stories. I have great respect for people in the armed forces so do not take this as an attack. I am not sure what has happened to you in the past that you are so hell bent on searching the internet for police stories all day but wow.

I also laugh at people thinking all police should be experts in every type of weapon made on the face of the earth. I must have missed that course somewhere. I also hate to break it to you but they have BB and water guns that my pistol light will snap right on to and they look exactly like the real deal. Hell these kids will paint over the orange tip so they look even more real. I know its easy to judge all law enforcement by the stories you see on the news and if that is all you do every day is look for bad stories then you need a new hobby. Just like every other job out there you are going to have a percentage of bad apples, cowards, and other misc labels. I would wager the good around 85 percent, iffy 10 percent and bad 5 percent and most hiring standards are tough. I have guys that I have absolutly no interest in ever working with. You know they will be the last ones to show up on hot calls or just the opposite guys that fuck shit up a mile a minute. To be honest, a lot of the stories you post I just go wow what the fuck were they thinking but then there are others that could go either way depending on what happened. Even with the super strict hiring standards, back grounds, physical, lie detector tests, etc etc you still just never know what you are going to end up with.

A few weeks ago on a saturday in my city it was four officers and a sgt., and we handled exactly one hundred calls in a twelve hour shift. The bell rang at 1800 hours and the last one came in at 0445 hours. I have more years in then the other three combined but they are actually very good officers and willing to do right and learn. Think about the room for error shaggin that many calls in a shift with four people. I know it is easy to judge but sometimes you guys have no idea. I love my job and really enjoy helping people but this job is nothing like you see on TV. There are guys losing their jobs everyday for stupid shit and they should be you just do not see it on the news all the time like the other stories.

What I'm saying is there are more regulations on military overseas than there are on cops here. Does BS happen? Yes. It's under combat conditions after long tours. Comparing police work to it would kind of makes sense if you can't go home for 12-18 months at a time and have to worry about kids blowing you up, having regulations on when you can do raids (have to notify the town and the imam and have local forces on hand between x and y hours) unlike here. No knock warrant? Okay. Wrong address? Oops. Shot your dog and kicked in your doors? Your fault.

Cops need to be held to a higher standard here. They have the power to completely destroy someone's life on no more than their word


Edit: I don't go hunting for cop fuckups. They pop up on my wall from friends who come across them

[03trubluGT]

Oh no, I guess I won't be getting a Christmas card from my favorite bottom feeding government worker. That's a real shame. The fact that you don't think you have damaged the opinions of people of this board (and simultaneously made yourself look like a complete dog dick) just proves to me that you are delusional. Bring out some more personal attacks on people, those are a big hit.

What's your addy? I'm sure I can find an extra card, just can't guarantee the appropriateness.

That dog dick you are seeing must be you looking in the mirror while you are typing.

And the personal attacks thing is pathetic. You are one of the major two-faced little bitches on this site. You can dish it out, but God forbid you have any directed at you, or your nutswingers.

[03trubluGT]

You need to reread what I said; I gave you two (2) options. You choose not to do either and as a result you are going to be lumped in with the "bad cops" until I (or we taxpayers) see examples set that prove to us you are not " one of them". You have the power to file complaints with supervision on any cop that violates laws and rights; done properly and with enough proof and with you giving a shit, you coukd really make some strides in cleaning up your force. Failure to turn them in on your part is as bad as you committing the offence itself. What do they call that in law when you are guilty of a crime just because you had knowledge of it taking place and not reporting? You know, the same shit civilians get arrest for but cops turn a blind eye to when cops are involved.

I AM a supervisor and have an obligation to oversee or face discipline up to and including termination for "Failure to Supervise". I have been involved in discipline for dozens of officers over the last 10 years.


But, it doesn't matter to some of the most active board members on this site. I could be Ghandi posting from home and they would still try to persecute me.

[03trubluGT]

What I'm saying is there are more regulations on military overseas than there are on cops here. Does BS happen? Yes. It's under combat conditions after long tours. Comparing police work to it would kind of makes sense if you can't go home for 12-18 months at a time and have to worry about kids blowing you up, having regulations on when you can do raids (have to notify the town and the imam and have local forces on hand between x and y hours) unlike here. No knock warrant? Okay. Wrong address? Oops. Shot your dog and kicked in your doors? Your fault.

Cops need to be held to a higher standard here. They have the power to completely destroy someone's life on no more than their word


Edit: I don't go hunting for cop fuckups. They pop up on my wall from friends who come across them

Is that in bold an excuse? OK, sorry you signed up for the military, after 3 tours you have a free ride to step outside the bounds and kill/rape/etc....

And you are ignoring the burden of proof here. Police officers are not the only means of evidence used to convict.

There is a myriad of examples of bad/corrupt officers being held accountable for their misconduct. But that's OK, just ignore that and act like it's one big happy brotherhood that covers everything up.

I guess that's why officers are disciplined. It's because entire departments are busy covering up for each other

I've offered for Alan and Henry (two of the most staunch FTP'ers) a chance to ride out and see what happens on the front lines, but they don't have the intestinal fortitude to man up.