P40 found in desert

[CJ]

No, they were American pilots and support staff that were were allowed to resign from their US military roles and join to form a mercenary group under Claire Chennault that represented China. The aircraft they flew had Chinese roundrels.

Really, they were there to defend the Chinese government to thwart Japanese imperialism througout asia. They were clearly American pilots flying American planes to defend an American interest.

Yeah that's what I thought. By non-associative I meant they were not flying their country's colors. Well, I'm glad we did that, now that we and China are such good allies and all. For some reason I thought the RAF was also involved but apparently I was mistaken.

[46Tbird]

We were more worried about stopping Japan than helping China. No doubt the Chinese were a little insulted by that, and rightly so.

[sc281]

Yeah that's what I thought. By non-associative I meant they were not flying their country's colors. Well, I'm glad we did that, now that we and china are such good allies and all.

Well, they fought for Chiang kai sheck, who was the the Dictator of China. Mao led the commies to overthrow him a few years later, and they associated the U.S. with helping their "opressor"


Looks like they are getting their revenge....

[CJ]

We were more worried about stopping Japan than helping China. No doubt the Chinese were a little insulted by that, and rightly so.

They got rolled like a fat whore by Japan. They were a pre-industrialized nation. They needed the help.

[CJ]

Well, they fought for Chiang kai sheck, who was the the Dictator of China. Mao led the commies to overthrow him a few years later, and they associated the U.S. with helping their "opressor"


Looks like they are getting their revenge....

Another example of how ousting a dictator is not always the best thing for us. *cough Egypt*

[32vfromhell]

Well, they fought for Chiang kai sheck, who was the the Dictator of China. Mao led the commies to overthrow him a few years later, and they associated the U.S. with helping their "opressor"


Looks like they are getting their revenge....

Well, its a little more in depth than that.
The KMD and the communist forces had a "truce" going during WWII , a mutual pact to fight the japanese. We also gave some supplies to the communist forces, but there was a LOT of worries about giving arms and armament to them, and Chang Kai-Shek was very critical of any weapons shipments to the communists.

Honestly, it wasnt until after the war, and after the failure of George C Marshalls negotiations (which were terrible) that the communists turned against the US. Hell, Mao wanted to use a strong relationship with the US to help reduce soviet influence on china.

At the time, we still thought communism throughout the world was all soviet controlled, and everyone was in lock-step with Moscow. Shit, the chinese fired more bullets at the russians than we ever did.

[jw33]

I've heard stories that at Iwo Jima they just buried a lot of shit in a huge pit instead of trying to do anything with it after the war. No telling how many B29's and other planes/equipment got left on that island.

[CJ]

I've heard stories that at Iwo Jima they just buried a lot of shit in a huge pit instead of trying to do anything with it after the war. No telling how many B29's and other planes/equipment got left on that island.

unfortunately it would be rusted and ruined. The desert preserved this plane incredibly.

[46Tbird]

No telling how many B29's ... got left on that island.

Exactly zero.

The B-29 was a top-secret weapons delivery system at the time and they didn't want anyone to get their hands on them.

They figured someone would be able to glean the technology, but I don't think anyone expected to see an exact copy flying with a red star on it.

But... the TU-4 really did happen. And that should give you an idea of how revolutionary American military technology was at the time.

[CJ]

Exactly zero.

The B-29 was a top-secret weapons delivery system at the time and they didn't want anyone to get their hands on them.

They figured someone would be able to glean the technology, but I don't think anyone expected to see an exact copy flying with a red star on it.

But... the TU-4 really did happen. And that should give you an idea of how revolutionary American military technology was at the time.

fucking russians copy everything we make. You make it, they copied it.

[347Mike]

This may be a stupid question and may be due to my ignorance on aircraft, but why don't we paint anything badass on our planes anymore?

[Jester]

This may be a stupid question and may be due to my ignorance on aircraft, but why don't we paint anything badass on our planes anymore?

You kidding me? Shit, we have gone to flat black baby! Ratrod!

[CJ]

This may be a stupid question and may be due to my ignorance on aircraft, but why don't we paint anything badass on our planes anymore?

Because we're pussies and it might offend people.

[Couver]

This may be a stupid question and may be due to my ignorance on aircraft, but why don't we paint anything badass on our planes anymore?

Look up the Navy centinial of aviation paint schemes. There are some cool ones. Google search. " VFA-122 digital paint" it looks cool but will hurt your head.

CONA paint schemes works too....

[347Mike]

Because we're pussies and it might offend people.

If you're serious I had a feeling that was it, unfortunately...