Next time I'll kill your f***ing dog with my hands

[slow99]

State Farm paid my son $30k for his bite from a dog that was owned by the people he was visiting.

Which you put into an annuity, iirc ... I hope it was variable.

[DON SVO]

State Farm paid my son $30k for his bite from a dog that was owned by the people he was visiting.

Civil court may view what was supposed to be a 'friendly' dog attacking a child differently than a grown woman walking up a strange driveway to wrangle a strange dog and getting bitten... On the dog's own property.

I'm not saying she and Matt shouldn't be upset, it sucks she got bit, but I'd be proud of my dog chomping on the strange gaagaa-googoo speaking nutcase meandering up my driveway!

[Nash B.]

The owner's dog bit her on the owner's driveway... Love ya Matt, but she trespassed on to the dog's legal territory

I think you're wrong.

my wife was out running errands this morning and while in our neighborhood on the way home she saw a dog wandering around. Another neighbor was walking down the street so my wife stopped to ask of she knew the dog's owner. It had tags and looked friendly (lab / blue feeler mix) but as they approached he changed his tune. He charged from the top of the driveway into the street where they were.

[DON SVO]

I think you're wrong.

From the description, I disagree. She stopped her vehicle, exited, and approached the dog. It was in the owner's driveway and she was approaching the house. I would ASSuME that meant she was curbside or sidewalk when he charged.

If she was 2 houses over and he ran down the driveway, down the street and attacked her... Kill the mutt. If she was walking towards the house from the street I can't fault the animal for charging her. He didn't maul her, it was a clean quick bite. For reference, look at Mysticchromecobra's pic... That dog went for "Fuck You" and mangled his face.

Unless I'm reading something wrong, I stand behind "don't approach strange dogs, and if you approach one on his property don't be upset that he's a 'good' dog."

[Jimbo]

Don, I get your point. However, assuming this is the suburbs where all houses are on less than half an acre, there are generally sidewalks in front of the houses and that just isnt an area that you can allow a dog to free roam and "protect".

[DON SVO]

Don, I get your point. However, assuming this is the suburbs where all houses are on less than half an acre, there are generally sidewalks in front of the houses and that just isnt an area that you can allow a dog to free roam and "protect".

I'm not justifying the owner's possible negligence. I say possible because some dogs are surprisingly smart and do shit you'd never dream of to escape a holding area (fence, yard, etc).

My point is more geared towards her approaching a dog with tags that was roaming the street. My opinion is to never approach a dog wandering about, but nevertheless... my impression is that this dog noticed he had been seen and homing-pigeoned his ass back to his yard. Matt's wife walked up the street towards the house and the dog did what a good dog does. It didn't maul her, it didn't rip an arm off, it didn't go berserk and run down the street to the local orphanage for a baby-chomping spree: it gave her a 'go away bitch, this is my house' bite and let go.

Unless that dog went down the street after her, crossed the street into the neighbors homestead or mauled her needlessly... I'd chalk it up to a pretty mild learning lesson.

[Jimbo]

Fair enough, and I totally agree about approaching an unknown dog, it was doing its job. I put responsibility on the owners when in a suburban community like that. Related story, My kids and I were in my front yard with my dog as I was getting something out of the car. A woman walked up on the sidewalk while I was looking in the car. She came within a few feet of my daughter without either of us knowing. My dog lit up and herded her into the street while barking and circling her. She was pretty shaken and I apologized, but it was my fault for not having him on a leash in a high traffic area. The only reason he did it was because we didnt see a person walking toward us, as he normally never acts like that. None the less, my responsibilty.

[krazy kris]

There are 3 dogs that run the streets where I live. 1 is a pit boxer mix, 1 is a boxer, I don't know what the other is. I have shot 1 already for growling/barking and pursuing my kids on their way to the bus stop. We don't have any kind of animal control in my area and the owners already said they don't care. "Their dogs are harmless", but yet they bark and try to drag the kids in neighborhood off their bicycles when they ride down the street. I guess I will shoot every last 1 of them.What would you do?

[DON SVO]

Fair enough, and I totally agree about approaching an unknown dog, it was doing its job. I put responsibility on the owners when in a suburban community like that. Related story, My kids and I were in my front yard with my dog as I was getting something out of the car. A woman walked up on the sidewalk while I was looking in the car. She came within a few feet of my daughter without either of us knowing. My dog lit up and herded her into the street while barking and circling her. She was pretty shaken and I apologized, but it was my fault for not having him on a leash in a high traffic area. The only reason he did it was because we didnt see a person walking toward us, as he normally never acts like that. None the less, my responsibilty.

Oh no doubt... if the owner was negligent and allowed the dog to escape with ease or, worse yet, didn't care if the dog was loose then we have an issue.

There are 3 dogs that run the streets where I live. 1 is a pit boxer mix, 1 is a boxer, I don't know what the other is. I have shot 1 already for growling/barking and pursuing my kids on their way to the bus stop. We don't have any kind of animal control in my area and the owners already said they don't care. "Their dogs are harmless", but yet they bark and try to drag the kids in neighborhood off their bicycles when they ride down the street. I guess I will shoot every last 1 of them.What would you do?

If the owners will not corral their mongrel barking shit machines and the local animal control won't intervene, I would call the local police station (the station, not the paid-by-the-hour dullards answering Nine Eleven calls) and inform them there are dogs menacing the kids. See if they will be proactive. With certain breeds even animal control will say call the police. A cop can smoke a dog legally (unless his ass is on video doing it for fun ) and a lot of times animal control won't put their officers in that kind of danger. If the police dept. won't send an officer, I'd shoot every one of those dogs and dump the bleeding Lassie-Corpse onto the hood their respective owner's car.

[GE]

The owner's dog bit her on the owner's driveway... Love ya Matt, but she trespassed on to the dog's legal territory

What legal theory is this based upon?

[YALE]

it gave her a 'go away bitch, this is my house' bite and let go.

Unless that dog went down the street after her, crossed the street into the neighbors homestead or mauled her needlessly... I'd chalk it up to a pretty mild learning lesson.

In this case, especially, a little breed awareness would've gone a long way. ACD's/Heelers can be very friendly dogs under the right circumstances, but under the wrong circumstances can be a nightmare. They're bred to be very tenacious, and they're supreme enforcers of whatever they think the rules are. If they think you don't need to be in their yard, they're going to get you out of their yard by any means necessary. Sounds like this dog was good at its job.

Fun fact: This is my last post from the cheese factory. In probably a half an hour, I'll clock out for the last time.

[Sean88gt]

In this case, especially, a little breed awareness would've gone a long way. ACD's/Heelers can be very friendly dogs under the right circumstances, but under the wrong circumstances can be a nightmare. They're bred to be very tenacious, and they're supreme enforcers of whatever they think the rules are. If they think you don't need to be in their yard, they're going to get you out of their yard by any means necessary. Sounds like this dog was good at its job.

Fun fact: This is my last post from the cheese factory. In probably a half an hour, I'll clock out for the last time.

You should snatch a brick for Rachel

[DON SVO]

What legal theory is this based upon?

If the dog was in the street when it but her, none. If she had gotten to the owner's driveway and it bit her on the owner's property she was in the wrong. Honestly, though, if she admits she approached the dog on the property the owner of the dog could be a cocksucker and have her cited for trespassing. I think it would be a petty thing to do, but I also feel that the homeowner shouldn't be liable for his dog protecting the house (pending the dog got out on it's own and bit her on it's property).

My point is simple, don't approach a strange dog when there's not an owner/handler to be found. Again, I'm not trying to say she deserved to be bitten... but she drove up to the front of the house and started approaching it... that's the dog's house and the dog defended it with very minimal collateral damage.

[Treasure Chest]

If the dog was in the street when it but her, none. If she had gotten to the owner's driveway and it bit her on the owner's property she was in the wrong. Honestly, though, if she admits she approached the dog on the property the owner of the dog could be a cocksucker and have her cited for trespassing. I think it would be a petty thing to do, but I also feel that the homeowner shouldn't be liable for his dog protecting the house (pending the dog got out on it's own and bit her on it's property).

My point is simple, don't approach a strange dog when there's not an owner/handler to be found. Again, I'm not trying to say she deserved to be bitten... but she drove up to the front of the house and started approaching it... that's the dog's house and the dog defended it with very minimal collateral damage.

There are still leash laws, regardless of whether it occurred on an owner's property or not or on the road. She didn't pass through a secured structure like a gate or the house, so it is the owner's sole responsibility to secure their animal.

[DON SVO]

There are still leash laws, regardless of whether it occurred on an owner's property or not or on the road. She didn't pass through a secured structure like a gate or the house, so it is the owner's sole responsibility to secure their animal.

Then Matt should get cited for not securing his wife, allowing her to wander onto their property and forcing the dog to bite her