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  • Washington named Britains all time greatest adversary

    Nice.


    LONDON (Reuters) - American revolutionary leader George Washington has been voted the greatest enemy commander to face Britain, lauded for his spirit of endurance against the odds and the enormous impact of his victory.
    In a contest organised by the National Army Museum, Washington triumphed over Irish independence hero Michael Collins, France's Napoleon Bonaparte, German Field Marshal Erwin Rommel and Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the founder of modern Turkey.

    Making the case for Washington, historian Stephen Brumwell said the American War of Independence (1775-83) was "the worst defeat for the British Empire ever."

    "His personal leadership was crucial," he said.

    Washington was a courageous and inspirational battlefield commander who led from the front but also had the skills to deal with his political counterparts in Congress and with his French allies, Brumwell said. Above all, he never gave up even when the war was going against him.

    "His army was always under strength, hungry, badly supplied. He shared the dangers of his men. Anyone other than Washington would have given up the fight. He came to personify the cause, and the scale of his victory was immense."

    Almost 8,000 people voted in an online poll which produced a shortlist of five men, whose merits were debated by guest speakers at a weekend event at the museum before a final ballot of attendees.

    The main criterion was that each commander must have led an army against British forces in battle - which ruled out foes such as Adolf Hitler - and that they must fall within the National Army Museum's time frame of the 17th century onwards.

    Michael Collins was hailed as a great guerrilla tactician who took on and defeated British forces within the state itself. Bonaparte challenged Britain for nearly a quarter of a century across the globe before his defeat at Waterloo.

    The legend of Rommel inspired fear and awe among British troops in the North African desert in World War Two, even though his battlefield successes were limited. Ataturk was involved in one of Britain's greatest military humiliations at Gallipoli and later thwarted British designs in the region and created modern Turkey.

    Matthew Hughes of London's Brunel University said that Rommel and Napoleon were both great operational commanders but they ultimately achieved nothing on the political level.

    "The other three are more interesting because they all achieved a political objective, something concrete that is still with us."

    None of the five is particularly pleasant ideologically," Hughes added, saying that even Washington was a slave owner whose newly forged country then went on to try to destroy its native population.

    (Reporting by Angus MacSwan, London newsroom 44 207 542 7918; editing by Tim Pearce)

  • #2
    Washington was the man. He defeated the premier world power with a ragtag army and oversaw the development of one of the greatest nations this planet has ever seen. As the first president he was offered unimaginable power and was aware of the dangerous precedent he could set, so he abstained from doing what most of his peers would have.

    Also, the "17th Century onwards" clause disqualifies a lot of worth candidates.
    Originally posted by lincolnboy
    After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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    • #3
      William Wallace sacked York, and more or less gave Scotland enough breathing room to win its independence. It's too bad the Darien scheme undid all his hard work.
      ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
        Washington was the man.
        this

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        • #5
          Not to take any credit away from Washington, because he does hold one of the biggest bad mother fucker wallets in my book, but giving up really wasn't an option for him. He was the most notable figure on the American side. If he had given up, he would have most certainly been killed. Thats more than enough motivation to make a bunch of ragtag farmers and merchants keep fighting a losing war for a few years.

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          • #6
            That can be said for most (if not all) rebellion/separatist leaders throughout history though .

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            • #7
              Yea, and he won. Which says a lot about him. I am just pointing out where the article said "he would never give up the fight" really doesn't add much merit since he had no choice but to keep fighting.

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              • #8
                Yeah but as you and i didn't know him personally, you can't really say that his motivation to win was strong because he was trying to survive . His deeds and the way that history speaks of him would say quite the contrary. More likely, he was willing to give his life for what he believed in

                If he were set on just living through it he could have just avoided the conflict altogether or been one of the many loyalists, who also survived .

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
                  Not to take any credit away from Washington, because he does hold one of the biggest bad mother fucker wallets in my book, but giving up really wasn't an option for him. He was the most notable figure on the American side. If he had given up, he would have most certainly been killed. Thats more than enough motivation to make a bunch of ragtag farmers and merchants keep fighting a losing war for a few years.
                  Not true, in the early years of the war congress briefly flirted with the idea of replacing him with Gen Gates. There were a great number of reasons why we eventually secured our independence, but Washington was certainly the most idealistic leader we had. That being said...America Fuck Yea.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                    Washington was the man. He defeated the premier world power with a ragtag army and oversaw the development of one of the greatest nations this planet has ever seen. As the first president he was offered unimaginable power and was aware of the dangerous precedent he could set, so he abstained from doing what most of his peers would have.

                    Also, the "17th Century onwards" clause disqualifies a lot of worth candidates.
                    ... and he was also a Christian.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SS Junk View Post
                      ... and he was also a Christian.


                      Worse than being a slave owner IMO.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by talisman View Post
                        Worse than being a slave owner IMO.
                        How do you figure?

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                        • #13
                          I'm just being an asshole.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by talisman View Post
                            I'm just being an asshole.
                            Do you park in handicapped spaces so handicapped people can make handicapped faces?

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                            • #15
                              I always ask people "How about this heat?"

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