So Zimmerman is charged with 2nd degree murder.

[naynay]

Go ahead and point out where I've said anything even remotely racist to you. I'll wait.

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[DON SVO]

I've had a conversation with just one Trayvon Martin sympathizer since the verdict.

I made a point that Trayvon was in way better shape and that he could have ditched George Zimmerman and called the cops. He was already out of sight when Zimmerman got out of his car. Instead, he looped back around to confront Zimmerman and called his girlfriend to tell her about it. I stated that I felt the youngster did it on purpose with the intent of assaulting Zimmerman while the girl was on the phone to try to show off. If Trayvon Martin was in true danger, he should have evaded when he had an absolutely unstoppable head start.

He says, "If you think Martin started it, then Zimmerman should have just stayed in his car. If he had stayed in his car, he wouldn't have gotten close enough to Martin."

I replied with, "...and if Trayvon Martin would have just hit Zimmerman and ran, or even just stopped hammering Zimmerman's head into the pavement, he wouldn't have eaten a hollow point bullet from point-blank range from the guy HE was trying to kill."

The guy I was talking to is relatively intelligent, so watching the wheels turn after being presented that angle was interesting. He doesn't condone the shooting now, but he agrees that Zimmerman should have been acquitted.

[stevo]

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[Broncojohnny]

It is possible that the reason TM reacted the way he did, was because he really was up to something, and GZ interrupted him.

From April 2012:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/justice/florida-teen-shooting-burglaries

"City officials posted police reports to the city website detailing eight burglary reports in the neighborhood in the 14 months prior to Martin's February 26 death.

In three of those incidents, black males were implicated by witnesses or arrests. A fourth incident was less clear.

A homeowner who reported that someone had broken into her home and had stolen a video game console referred police to a black man who had previously visited her home asking for her son.

Police do not list that man as a suspect in their report.

In the other four incidents, there were no witnesses or suspects, according to police reports."



"In his CNN interview, Taaffe credited Zimmerman with preventing what he said would have been a ninth burglary by reporting a suspicious black man trying to break into Taaffe's home.

City documents show that Zimmerman did call police on February 2 to report a black man was possibly trying to break into the house.

By the time police arrived, no one was at the scene, according to a call log posted on the city website."


I just can't figure out why Zimmerman found Martin suspicious! Obviously he is racist!

[03trubluGT]

Add to that TM was already found once with stolen jewelry and the school police turned it in as "found property" so the black male crime stats would not rise.

[KBScobravert]

I just can't get my head around how people are overlooking key witness testimony like Good's. Work backwards from the body getting put in the bag and you have him being shot at near point blank range with the clothing 2-4 inches draped off the body. Again this is in witness testimony. Then you have this jewel:

By ABC News
Jul 15, 2013 5:45amBy SENI TIENABESO and MATT GUTMAN

John Good was another prosecution witness whose words may have helped Zimmerman more than the prosecution. Good lived near where the fatal shot was fired and appeared to have had the best view of the brief fight between Zimmerman and Martin.

Good testified that he saw what he believed to be Martin on top of Zimmerman. “The color on top was dark and the color at bottom was…red,” Good said referring to the men’s clothing. At another point he told the court that the person on the bottom had “lighter skin color.”

Zimmerman is a white Hispanic who was wearing a red and black jacket that night. Martin, who was black, was wearing a dark sweatshirt.

“The person on the bottom, I could hear a ‘Help,’” Good said.

Under cross examination by Zimmerman’s lawyer, Good said he believes he saw Martin on top punching Zimmerman “MMA style,” a reference to mixed martial arts.

“The person on top was ground and pounding the person on the bottom?”asked Zimmerman attorney Mark O’Mara.

“Correct,” said Good

So not knowing who started the fight because only GZ is alive to tell, you have to agree that he was getting the shit beat out of him and shot TM.

Then you look at the photo of his face and the back of his head. How can you not agree that his account of the events are not accurate? He stated he had his head slammed into the concrete sidewalk. Hence the gash in the back and the bruising. He stated he was hit in the nose and several times in the face. Hence the busted up nose and bruising. All these things being evident that very same night.

Where are the photos of TM looking all beat to shit? They don't exist.

[KBScobravert]

Add to that TM was already found once with stolen jewelry and the school police turned it in as "found property" so the black male crime stats would not rise.

I want the photos from his phone to come out. I want the jewelry he had spread out on his bed to be crossed with victim's descriptions of their losses.

Don't forget the nude photos of under age girls on the phone. Sorry dude, that is a child pornography. Just cause you are a child (for the next few months) does not make it okay.

His podna's know that he was a theif right along with him. That is why you don't hear shit from them. His parents have to be questioning all the stuff he had that they can not account for in his room. Wonder when they will come to the realization that their son WAS breaking into homes.

[racrguy]

I just can't get my head around how people are overlooking key witness testimony like Good's. Work backwards from the body getting put in the bag and you have him being shot at near point blank range with the clothing 2-4 inches draped off the body. Again this is in witness testimony. Then you have this jewel:



So not knowing who started the fight because only GZ is alive to tell, you have to agree that he was getting the shit beat out of him and shot TM.

Then you look at the photo of his face and the back of his head. How can you not agree that his account of the events are not accurate? He stated he had his head slammed into the concrete sidewalk. Hence the gash in the back and the bruising. He stated he was hit in the nose and several times in the face. Hence the busted up nose and bruising. All these things being evident that very same night.

Where are the photos of TM looking all beat to shit? They don't exist.

Right. I had someone tell me they have a hard time believing the defense side of the story. I had no response. All the evidence proves what the defense was saying, not the other way around.

This person also brought up the lady that got 20 years for busting off a couple rounds, not knowing any of the details of that one either.

Edit: I wonder if there have been any burglaries since the shooting.

[KBScobravert]

Right. I had someone tell me they have a hard time believing the defense side of the story. I had no response. All the evidence proves what the defense was saying, not the other way around.

This person also brought up the lady that got 20 years for busting off a couple rounds, not knowing any of the details of that one either.

Edit: I wonder if there have been any burglaries since the shooting.

A permanent stopgap measure.

You can counter their argument of the chick busting caps in the air as it is not the approved method of self defense with a deadly weapon but instead discharging a firearm. There was even a guy here locally a few months back that shot into the ground at his house when he heard someone trying to break into his fence. All on tape and video. He too was arrested and is a white guy. Actually a funny story to hear it told by him. But yes, they were debating charges against him.

[racrguy]

A permanent stopgap measure.

You can counter their argument of the chick busting caps in the air as it is not the approved method of self defense with a deadly weapon but instead discharging a firearm. There was even a guy here locally a few months back that shot into the ground at his house when he heard someone trying to break into his fence. All on tape and video. He too was arrested and is a white guy. Actually a funny story to hear it told by him. But yes, they were debating charges against him.

Not only that. The woman had to leave the scene, go to the garage and get the gun, then come BACK. That's not self defense.

[KBScobravert]

http://news.yahoo.com/zimmermans-lawyer-calls-prosecutors-disgrace-profession-025529776.html

Her (female lead prosecutor) office confirmed last week that it had fired its information technology director, Ben Kruidbos, who had testified in a pre-trial hearing that files he created with text messages and images he retrieved from Martin's phone were not handed to the defense.

Kruidbos testified last month that he found embarrassing photos on Martin's phone that included pictures of a clump of jewelry on a bed, underage nude females, marijuana plants and a hand holding a semi-automatic pistol.

O'Mara said he intends to amend his request for sanctions against the prosecutors in light of testimony from the trial, calling prosecutors' failure to turn over data from Martin's phone records for months "an undeniable Brady violation."

Prosecutors handed over raw data from Martin's phone, but O'Mara accused them of withholding additional data that had been extracted by Kruidbos. Corey countered that the judge determined the defense was in possession.

These are the pics I want exploited. Was he a burglar? Were GZ's suspicions accurate, that this hooded male he saw walking in the rain that night were warranted? Did GZ shoot a man who had been breaking into houses in his community?

[diablo rojo]

There was even a guy here locally a few months back that shot into the ground at his house

I fired a shotgun round into the ground in '99 when a guy I was having an issue with attempted to run me over with his car on my property. This was in Johnson County and I did spend the night in jail. They did an investigation, and no charges were filed.

Course, I am white!

[03trubluGT]

Just wondering, why was Angela Corey in the courtroom?

It was like she had a personal interest in this case. Typically (ok, in every case I have ever seen) the appointed official delegates the case to the prosecution and is kept informed. Was it because she is black?

[Vertnut]

I thought she was white? You know she really took a strong interest in this case, and fired one of her people after he said she had withheld some info from the defense.

[SS Junk]

No better song/video than this describes the situation with the media.

... and has a pretty damn good guitar solo to boot.