So Zimmerman is charged with 2nd degree murder.

[BERNIE MOSFET]

zimmerman was not protecting his house or hisneighbors he was on the next street over acting as mr big man chasing a 17 year old walking home.

Neighborhood Watch. Seriously, what part of being on neighborhood watch does not establish pretext for monitoring an entire neighborhood for suspicious behavior?

This case would 100% different if Martin was on Zimmerman's property, and zimmerman hadnt instigated the event

Listen, Bob Costas, tell us where Zimmerman broke any laws by investigating what he thought was suspicious activity before talking about instigating an assault.

here my address if you want to come over
1400 South Lamar Street, Dallas, TX 75215

DPD HQ?

I see people walking in front of my house all the time that I dont know, and they arent robbing people and I dont give chase.

Irrelevent, Bob Costas.

I also know that somebody walking at 7pm in the rain isnt breaking into houses because statistically robberies are done between 8&5 when people are away.

No. Robbery is a violent crime whereby force or intimidation is used against a person during a theft. Burglary is theft where no victim is present. A burglary can become a robbery - but these are two different crimes.

That means a robbery does not occur when people are away. Burglaries do.

Statistics are a measure of the occurrence of events, and can be inferred to describe the probability of events repeating in a prior observed manner or pattern. Statistics say that a burglary is more likely to occur during the day, but numbers do not prohibit a burglary from happening at any time. This is because burglary is a crime of opportunity.

Let me expand on the statistics. Saying some event has a 50% chance of happening means you have no idea if it will happen or not. It is equally as likely to occur as not occur. According to FBI statistics, in 2011, 52.8% of all residential burglaries occurred during daytime. 27.2% of all residential burglaries occurred during nighttime, and the remaining % are unknown. If we make an assumption that the unknowns split about like the known burglaries - we might interpolate that 63% of residential burglaries occur during the daytime. That's damn near a 4/10 split on night time burglaries.

Now, there's a correlation between weather and crime. Crime increases as temperature increases, to a point. It was 63 degrees and rainy. 63 isn't exactly cold, even in the rain. And rain isn't exactly a deterrent to burglars. This burglar, who especially liked rainy days, said:

When it rains, people tend to be in a hurry and they really get careless. They forget to lock their door or lock their windows.

Is rain and cooler weather enough to bring 4/10 odds down to negligible? Sanford has some of the highest crime rates in the nation. National burglary average in 2011 for cities 50,000 to 99,000 was 700 per 100,000 inhabitants. In Sanford it was 1,740 per 100,000. Burglaries happen 250% more in Sanford than other areas of the nation! Think a member of neighborhood watch doesn't know that? There were 8 burglaries in that neighborhood in the year leading up to that night, do you think a member of neighborhood watch isn't aware that his neighborhood has been a target of burglaries?


I think the statistics say that you do not know that Martin wasn't prowling.

I also know that my insurance will replace everything.

Good on you. Not everyone carries sufficient insurance to cover the loss of their possessions. More importantly, the items stolen aren't ever worth the loss of sense of security and fidelity in your home.

[347Mike]

Well, that's that....

[DON SVO]

Well, that's that....

No it's not. There's a handful of other bleeding hearts who also feel that you should be allowed to beat someone to NEAR death (their definition varies on this) and allow robberies to occur so as to prevent the loss of the criminal's life. I won't respond to John02Hawk because I know I'll be wasting my time.

[mikec]

... I won't respond to John02Hawk because I know I'll be wasting my time.

Eggzactly!


And BOOSH on post 841, nicely done sir!

[347Mike]

No it's not. There's a handful of other bleeding hearts who also feel that you should be allowed to beat someone to NEAR death (their definition varies on this) and allow robberies to occur so as to prevent the loss of the criminal's life. I won't respond to John02Hawk because I know I'll be wasting my time.

It was the boosh factor not the fact you have others who think what happened was 100% wrong

[WildBill]

If George Zimmerman did not have a gun then George Zimmerman would not have been as confrontational and Martin would still be posing as a gangster thug and none of us would have known the difference.

Really. He had the confidence to confront Martin because he was armed. What I am saying is if he didn't have the gun chances are none of that would of happened. It's really not that difficult to understand.

Since none of us know exactly what happened that night, all of us are guilty of doing so. Jump on the bandwagon and roll with it.

Do you read what you post?

[SS Junk]

Do you read what you post?

Absolutely. Do you always skim threads before posting? Instead of being selective you should try and read the entire thread before finding the opportunity to look like you know what you're saying. I'd make it easy for you, but you seem like a smart fellow.

[03trubluGT]

Absolutely. Do you always skim threads before posting? Instead of being selective you should try and read the entire thread before finding the opportunity to look like you know what you're saying. I'd make it easy for you, but you seem like a smart fellow.

I still think Wild Bill got you on that one.

[SS Junk]

I still think Wild Bill got you on that one.

It's been proven over and over again you aren't quite as smrt as he is.

[03trubluGT]

It's been proven over and over again you aren't quite as smrt as he is.

Is that all you've got?

Wild Bill did a good job of showing where you made serious implications, and then contradicted yourself slam dunk style.

Now who's not so smart?

[SS Junk]

Now who's not so smart?

The Gingerbread Troll is trolling.

[03trubluGT]

The Gingerbread Troll is trolling.

Ha! I'm just agreeing with Bill.

Don't be so sensitive!

[The King]

Bill was correct, SS Junk contradicted himself with his own posts. It happens, and he should have admitted it and moved on. The weak defense mounted afterward however made the whole affair much more comical.

[SS Junk]

Dumbfuckery is strong up in here.

[WildBill]

Dumbfuckery is strong up in here.

Yup...............You've posted quite a lot in this thread.