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  • Originally posted by naynay View Post
    I thought it wasn't murder
    It isn't yet but it will be after he gets done with your friends at NBC
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    What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
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    Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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    • Originally posted by GrayStangGT View Post
      So far I'm 50% on tickets after getting my CHL, but the one ticket I did get was for 22 over so I can't really get mad about that one.
      Yesterday, I was pulled over for the first time after getting my CHL by a state trooper. 55 in a 20 MPH school zone while on my cell phone. I got a warning. I think it was more dumb luck and a trooper who was feeling generous than having anything to do with my CHL.

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      • Originally posted by Treasure Chest View Post
        Yesterday, I was pulled over for the first time after getting my CHL by a state trooper. 55 in a 20 MPH school zone while on my cell phone. I got a warning. I think it was more dumb luck and a trooper who was feeling generous than having anything to do with my CHL.
        You're damn lucky considering the cell phone and the speed. They will usually make an example of you.
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        • ^^^ didn't show off the ta ta treasure chest?

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          • Don't lie to the cops when they're on a witch hunt, kiddies.



            George Zimmerman's wife Shellie pleaded guilty Wednesday to a perjury charge in connection with allegations she misled a Florida court about her family's finances during a bail hearing.

            Her plea deal — in which she avoided a felony conviction and was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service — comes six weeks after her husband was acquitted of murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

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            George Zimmerman, shown here in court in July, was acquitted of second-degree murder. His wife pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor perjury charge.

            Prosecutors had accused Shellie Zimmerman of failing to disclose a $135,000 donation fund set up through PayPal during her husband's bail hearing, even though she was allegedly heard discussing the account over a jailhouse phone.

            Originally charged with a felony count of perjury, the nursing student pleaded guilty to a lesser charge that will not stop her from applying for health-care jobs.

            After her misstatements during the June 2012 hearing came to light, her husband's bail was revoked. However, he was released on bond before being tried for second-degree murder.

            The Sanford, Fla., neighborhood watch volunteer said he acted in self-defense when he shot Martin, 17, when the two crossed paths in a gated community on Feb. 26, 2012. Zimmerman, who is of white and Hispanic descent, has denied race played a role in the shooting of the black teen.

            His acquittal sparked an outpouring of protest, comment from the White House, and calls to repeal Stand Your Ground self-defense laws in Florida and other states.

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            • Originally posted by Chas_svo View Post
              You're damn lucky considering the cell phone and the speed. They will usually make an example of you.
              I was completely distracted and frazzled and handled the stop all wrong. He came to my passenger side door (my jeep had manual doors) and I reached over and rolled the window down which made him nervous at first. I handed him my CHL and when he asked if my firearm was in the vehicle, I couldn't remember if it was, so I reached over and opened my glove box without thinking. It wasn't, but when I realized what I had done, I apologized profusely, told him I knew better, and explained why I was frazzled. He said, "Oh! Well, let me run this real quick and get you out of here!"

              He came back with a 1 over the limit warning, told me to take a couple of deep breaths and slow down, wished me luck, and sent me on my way.

              I was amazed. He had every cause to be a dick and throw the book at me, but he didn't....and I wasn't even showing cleavage. :-P

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              • Women seem to have the best luck when it comes to tickets...

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                • Originally posted by Treasure Chest View Post
                  He came back with a 1 over the limit warning, told me to take a couple of deep breaths and slow down, wished me luck, and sent me on my way.
                  :-P
                  [pervy cop]That's right take some deep breaths.... no slower,, deeper.. that's it... mmmmmm[/pervy cop]

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                  • You people get pulled over too much.
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                    • Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
                      Women seem to have the best luck when it comes to tickets...
                      I probably get pulled over about once a year. So far, I've lucked out and haven't been ticketed by troopers, county, and city LEO in TX. I got out of a no proof of insurance/no registration/improperly displayed plate/speeding combination in Arkansas...thought for sure I was going to jail because I didn't have my DL on me with that one, but he gave me a warning. The only two that weren't warnings happened in Washington State, but the troopers wrote them for lesser offenses.

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                      • Originally posted by Magnus View Post
                        You people get pulled over too much.
                        Fuck, the Plano Police Department!
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                        Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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                        • I have pretty good luck with traffic stops, but it also helps when you maintain their systems.
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                          • Ah... liberals, democrats and shadingdongs...

                            Still in the U.K., still a bit surprised by how little the non-Guardian newspapers here cover the Edward Snowden story, I notice that conservative...

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                            • Originally posted by Magnus View Post
                              You people get pulled over too much.
                              I got pulled over last night in Sunnyvale. 51 in a 35. Just hittin some conas after hittin some weed. Gave me a warning. I think he liked my car.
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                              • Zimmerman's wife filing for divorce.

                                ORLANDO, Fla. — George Zimmerman’s wife filed for divorce Thursday, less than two months after her husband was acquitted of murdering Trayvon Martin and a week after she pleaded guilty to perjury in his case.

                                Shellie Zimmerman made the decision because of “disappointment,” her attorney, Kelly Sims, wrote Thursday in a short email to The Associated Press. The 26-year-old Zimmerman told ABC’s “Good Morning America” last week that she was having serious doubts about remaining married.
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                                The interview came just after she pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor perjury charge for lying during a bail hearing following her husband’s arrest for the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in February 2012. Her husband, who was acquitted on second-degree murder and other charges in July, wasn’t in the Sanford, Fla., courtroom as she was sentenced to a year’s probation and 100 hours of community service — even though she supported him and lied about their finances.

                                ABC first reported the divorce filing. Email messages and phone calls to Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, were not immediately returned.

                                Zimmerman’s brother, Robert Zimmerman, wrote on Twitter: “Pray 4 them.”

                                George Zimmerman said he acted in self-defense when he killed Martin and the polarizing case opened up national discussions on self-defense laws and race. Martin was black. Zimmerman has a white father and Hispanic mother.

                                Shellie Zimmerman’s felony perjury charge came after she lied about the couple’s assets when her husband was trying to be released on a lower bond. If convicted, she had faced up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine.

                                Court records show that in the days before the bond hearing in June 2012, Shellie Zimmerman transferred $74,000 — broken into eight smaller transfers ranging from $7,500 to $9,990 — from her husband’s credit union account to hers. It also shows that $47,000 was transferred from George Zimmerman’s account to his sister’s in the days before the bond hearing. Amounts of over $10,000 would have been reported to the Internal Revenue Service.

                                Four days after he was released on bond, Shellie Zimmerman transferred more than $85,500 from her account into her husband’s, records show. They also show that the jail recorded George Zimmerman instructing her on a call to “pay off all the bills,” including an American Express and Sam’s Club card.

                                Most of the money had come from donations to a website that had been set up to pay for George Zimmerman’s defense.

                                Despite the large transfers, at the bail hearing, Shellie Zimmerman testified that the couple, who married in 2007 and had no children, had limited funds because she was a full-time student and her husband wasn’t working. Prosecutors say they actually had then already raised $135,000 in donations from the website.

                                Shellie Zimmerman admitted to ABC that she did not tell the truth during the bail hearing.

                                “I can rationalize a lot of reasons for why I was misleading, but the truth is that I knew I was lying,” she said.

                                She said she plans to do her community service with a Christian ministry.

                                “I’ve made mistakes and I want to own them right now,” Shellie Zimmerman said.

                                During her appearance on “Good Morning America” following her husband’s acquittal, Zimmerman refused to say if she and her husband were still together.

                                She added that she “wants to have children and stay married.”

                                “With George?” the interviewer asked.

                                “That’s something I’m going to have to think about,” Shellie Zimmerman replied.

                                Earlier this week, her 29-year-old husband was ticketed for speeding in Lake Mary, Fla. Police say he was going 60 mph in a 45 mph zone.

                                In the ABC interview, she also revealed she wasn’t at their home the night of Martin’s shooting in their gated community outside Orlando because she’d had a fight with her husband.

                                “I was staying at my father’s house,” she said. “We had gotten into an argument the night before and I left.”

                                Shellie Zimmerman says that while she believes her husband’s version of the events leading to the shooting, “I can’t tell you how many nights I’ve gone or laid awake at night just thinking that I wish to God the circumstances had been different.”

                                She says the couple lived in hiding while awaiting his trial.

                                “We have pretty much lived like gypsies for the past year and a half. We’ve lived in a 20-foot trailer in the woods, scared every night that someone would go and find us and that it would be horrific,” she said.

                                She also told ABC she is deeply sorry for the Martin family’s loss. “I can’t even begin to understand the grief a parent experiences when they lose a child,” she said.

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