$140 No-Seat Belt Ticket?

[mustgofaster]

On the flip side of this, my aunt was trapped upside down in a Jeep after a low speed rollover accident, on a country back road for days before anyone found her. Had she not been wearing her seatbelt, she wouldn't have been trapped.

How was she trapped by the seatbelt? I rolled a truck before... Hanging upside-down I had no problem un-buckling the seatbelt.

Consider this... She was trapped in the Jeep... Had she not worn her seatbelt, what are the chances that she would have been trapped under the Jeep? I know which one I'd prefer.

A few others have mentioned this & I'll say it again. What is the big deal with wearing a seatbelt? Why is it such a horrible thing for so many people?
So many people say, "It's my life...As long as I'm not endangering other people, who cares?"
What about your family? Don't you care about them dealing with the end results? Death is the easiest route… If you are turned into an Invalid, now they have to take care of you… You have to live the rest of your days in a broken body. Pretty selfish reasoning, if you ask me.

I can honestly say that my seatbelt has @ the very least, saved me from serious injury in 2 major accidents, and in reality, it probably saved my life in both cases.

[Captain Crawfish]

BTW where do you think the christmas bonuses this year are gonna come from?

[Jimbo]

I'm not sure you get the point we're trying to make. Is it a law, yes. Do we have to abide by it, yes. Should I be required by law to protect myself from.... Myself, no. Underage seatbelt laws I completely agree with, children don't have the ability to make those kinds of choices and weigh all the pros and cons. Adults can, therefore shouldn't be subject to nanny laws such as this. Again, it's a law and we have to abide, but it shouldn't have been a law in the first place.

Honestly if it were a vote, I would check the box next to "21 and under mandatory seat belts", teenagers are stupid.

[racrguy]

Honestly if it were a vote, I would check the box next to "21 and under mandatory seat belts", teenagers are stupid.

^^this I was a dumbass when I was a teenager, and it's still a point of contention to this day lol

[Jimbo]

How was she trapped by the seatbelt? I rolled a truck before... Hanging upside-down I had no problem un-buckling the seatbelt.

It happens, I was once in a wreck that ended upside down in a lake, I had to swim back in to get the other two people and we had to use my pocket knife to cut the passengers seatbelt to get her out.

A few others have mentioned this & I'll say it again. What is the big deal with wearing a seatbelt? Why is it such a horrible thing for so many people?

Personal freedoms.

So many people say, "It's my life...As long as I'm not endangering other people, who cares?"
What about your family? Don't you care about them dealing with the end results? Death is the easiest route… If you are turned into an Invalid, now they have to take care of you… You have to live the rest of your days in a broken body. Pretty selfish reasoning, if you ask me.

Thats their choice, their family can make their judgements and choices about them accordingly. Its not my job or the governments job to protect every irresponsible father.

I can honestly say that my seatbelt has @ the very least, saved me from serious injury in 2 major accidents, and in reality, it probably saved my life in both cases.

Same here, only it helped me a lot more than twice.

[Broncojohnny]

I wear mine religiously.

But if I want to not wear it I should be free to do so. I don't need a fucking nanny or some jack off with a badge or the local fuckheads down at city hall stealing money out of my wallet under the guise of worrying about my safety. What a fucking joke.

[Denny]

Honestly if it were a vote, I would check the box next to "21 and under mandatory seat belts", teenagers are stupid.

So it should only be selective enforcement based on age? Can I get a Civil Rights check up in hura?!?!

[Denny]

Ugh, I expect better after reading your posts.

Enjoy your dried veggies when the gov makes fat/grease illegal, or decides your shotgun is too dangerous for you.

If you don't like it, write your Disctrict Reps., governor, etc.

[jluv]

I don't think that's the arguing point. I agree that *generally* seat belts are very beneficial, but if I don't want to wear mine I shouldn't be forced to. But rarely will you catch me without one.

I'm not trying to make any special points. I just don't understand why anyone would choose not to wear their seatbelt. But now that you mention it, I think taking issue with the seatbelt law is pretty silly, too. It's something so easy and also the only wise choice, and the law just happens to coincide wth that.

If you decide to do electrical work in your house, do you flip the breaker first? Of course you do (if you're smart). Now, if they passed a law that said you had to flip the breaker, would that bother you?

If making a no-brainer decision also makes me a law abiding citizen, that's just a bonus.

If there were any valid reason at all for not wearing one, then I could see the argument. It's just amusing to me that some people choose not to put it on.

[Jimbo]

So it should only be selective enforcement based on age? Can I get a Civil Rights check up in hura?!?!

Sure, I imagine you will notice the rights of minors are treated differently


edit: surely you are aware of laws regarding driving age, alcohol, enlistment age, sex, etc.?

[mustgofaster]

It happens, I was once in a wreck that ended upside down in a lake, I had to swim back in to get the other two people and we had to use my pocket knife to cut the passengers seatbelt to get her out.

Personal freedoms.

Thats their choice, their family can make their judgements and choices about them accordingly. Its not my job or the governments job to protect every irresponsible father.


Same here, only it helped me a lot more than twice.

I agree with personal freedoms. I believe that we are losing our freedoms @ an alarming rate. The TSA is a perfect example.
I just don't think that it should be a big issue in the first place. It's not like we're talking about sewing our skin to the seat-back. It seems to me like most people who don't wear their seat-belts, do so simply to be rebellious.
To me, it just seems like a huge price to pay, to make a point.

Funny thing... I had this discussion with someone @ work not too long ago. His reasoning for not wearing a seatbelt... "If I'm knocked unconscious, I can't unbuckle the seatbelt to get out." My response, "Well dumbass... Seatbelt or not... You aren't going anywhere, unconscious."

[Jimbo]

If you decide to do electrical work in your house, do you flip the breaker first? Of course you do (if you're smart). Now, if they passed a law that said you had to flip the breaker, would that bother you?

Yes.

[Jimbo]

If you don't like it, write your Disctrict Reps., governor, etc.

Ok.

[Denny]

Sure, I imagine you will notice the rights of minors are treated differently.

That's it... expect a call from Rev. Sharpton and the ACLU.

[Broncojohnny]

I'm not trying to make any special points. I just don't understand why anyone would choose not to wear their seatbelt. But now that you mention it, I think taking issue with the seatbelt law is pretty silly, too. It's something so easy and also the only wise choice, and the law just happens to coincide wth that.

If you decide to do electrical work in your house, do you flip the breaker first? Of course you do (if you're smart). Now, if they passed a law that said you had to flip the breaker, would that bother you?

If making a no-brainer decision also makes me a law abiding citizen, that's just a bonus.

If there were any valid reason at all for not wearing one, then I could see the argument. It's just amusing to me that some people choose not to put it on.

It is an issue to me for two reasons:

1. Just another cash grab for no reason

2. Precedent. How far does the nanny mentality go? Should we close down fast food places? Or racetracks? How much, as a tax paying responsible citizen, am I allowed to endanger myself? Government taxing or controlling things in the name of my safety will only get worse. I choose to say this is bullshit, rather than waiting for government to go further.