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2013 Mustang pricing is crazy..
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The styling improvements on the 'stang are very nice, but not THAT nice.
I think there will be plenty of discounts to be had in the next few months. Well, except on that GT500. 202mph is going to get some attention..
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i am really skeptical the piston coatings can keep them alive under the kind of abuse 2011-2012 users are putting them through.
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Coating pistons is an easy way to find HP. I'd do it in my race engine if the rules allowed it. They have different coatings for the skirt, top/dome, and the underside. The top coating is to keep piston temps down, the skirts have an anti friction coating, and the undersides have a coating that sheds oil. It's not cheap though.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by Rick Modena View PostHAHA! Being married myself, im sure it had something to do with his wife. The difference between buying a 25k car vs a 50k car is significant. Like $500.00 vs. $1000.00 a month is substantial.
Yeah, no shit. I couldn't justify it to myself even if I could afford it. My beater gets me to work every day just fine. They sure are nice though!
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HAHA! Being married myself, im sure it had something to do with his wife. The difference between buying a 25k car vs a 50k car is significant. Like $500.00 vs. $1000.00 a month is substantial.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by Steve View PostI'll locate the article I read it for you later, but Traxx pretty much covered it. Trust me, I've been doing my research on this after deciding buying a GT500 wasn't worth the extra cost with the way Coyote's respond to mods.
In other words the wife said no. lmao
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Originally posted by Doug Hatton View PostMy original plan was to wait on the 2013 in the spring, but after looking them over, I decided that I really liked the overall look of the '12 better and I wouldn't be able to touch a '13 for a while at the price that I wanted to pay for one. Very happy with my decision.
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Originally posted by Rick Modena View PostI'm not sure where Steve heard this, but I thought they just tweaked the PCM for more power, I don't see how deleting the oil squirters gains 8HP.
I'll locate the article I read it for you later, but Traxx pretty much covered it. Trust me, I've been doing my research on this after deciding buying a GT500 wasn't worth the extra cost with the way Coyote's respond to mods.
Originally posted by TRAXX View PostRegarding the oil squirters and the 8 hp, here is what I read and copied from another board:
3/19/2012 - Car and Driver, "Ford has found eight more ponies in the 5.0-liter V-8, achieved by applying Boss 302 piston coatings and discontinuing the oil squirts formerly cooling the undersides of the pistons, a function the engineers now believe to be unnecessary based on experience with the 5.0".
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3/19/2012 - Motor Trend, "Let's start with those eight extra horses, which nobody was clamoring for, but are welcome just the same. They were found in Boss 302-inspired calibration changes like making the spark retard a bit less conservative and deleting the oil-squirters that cooled the pistons but were deemed superfluous and a source of windage losses".
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Originally posted by 347Mike View PostCan someone tell me how much new car dealer ships mark up these cars? Someone who actually has experience and knows? Or how much a car like this cost to build on an assembly line?
Invoice on a 12 GT Premium coupe is $31,059 with MSRP of $33,710
Invoice on a 13 GT base coupe is $27,952 with MSRP of $ 30,300
Invoice on a 13 GT Premium is $31,642 with MSRP of $34,300.
The 12's currently have a $3000 rebate on one if you can find any left you like.
As for what it costs the factory to build them, no idea. lol.Last edited by Steve; 03-20-2012, 02:54 PM.
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I've heard the squirters are a big part of what's keeping these things together with boost!
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My original plan was to wait on the 2013 in the spring, but after looking them over, I decided that I really liked the overall look of the '12 better and I wouldn't be able to touch a '13 for a while at the price that I wanted to pay for one. Very happy with my decision.
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