Cops Beat Man ‘Resisting’ Arrest…Only to Find He’s in Diabetic Shock

[03trubluGT]

I'm a pump wearing type 1, and the only real problem I've had is under a Dr's care. I set the hospital record for hyperglycemia (high blood sugar, not low) at 1172, and lived to talk about it. That's when I learned I better learn everything about this disease, as all it takes is a distracted Dr and nurses to nearly kill you. I've had this for 22 years.

What pump are you using? Omnipod?

[Chas_svo]

What pump are you using? Omnipod?

Medtronic(Minimed) Paradigm.

[Chas_svo]

I took care of an 18yr old Type I in the ER a couple years ago that was basically dead...and would have been had his friends waited 10 more mins to bring him in. His blood glucose was 1550!

Here's the link in Canada about it...

http://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/show...hlight=lactate

Dang, that is way beyond what most can survive. As you know, it also depends on how long it has been high. Mine was about 2.5 days with no insulin, because I had a stomach infection and could not keep food down. I did not know enough to understand that I needed a basal dose of some kind, and my Dr and the hospital had taken blood 3 times, and I assumed they had checked my sugar. I had told each and every one that I had not taken insulin several days. It was Christmas eve when I went in, and it nearly killed me. My dr had left and his replacement actually had a brain and checked my blood sugar. I was in complete renal failure, pulse was about undetectable, and they had to invert me to keep blood flowing to my brain. Shitty hospital, shitty care, but a very good lesson for me. Don't rely on anyone to take care of you.

[davbrucas]

Don't rely on anyone to take care of you.

Bingo...because if a mistake is made, it's your life that will be affected.

[ram57ta]

In 2001 I was sitting still at a traffic light on Greenville Ave. when a car plowed into the back bumper of my work truck so hard it pushed me into the middle of the intersection and caved in the front of his Maxima. I got out of the truck to check on him and he was just sitting there staring ahead...he didn't even know he had hit me and he never hit the brakes. His battery was sparking and leaking and finally caught fire and he just sat there and barely acknowledged me talking to him. I was finally able to figure out by talking to him that he was in diabetic shock and helped him out of his car. I initially thought he was either high as fuck or drunk...but he really didn't look the type. BTW...burning car batteries will fuck up your throat for hours. Paramedics said he was barely conscious with a reading under 70 (I grew up knowing several diabetics and have learned a great deal about it over the last 10 years because of my stepfather who died in late 2010 from it and my stepmother who is unfortunately beginning the suffer the long term effects of a life with it). I'm not sure how I would call anyone either a severe or mild diabetic......with medication and active checking it can be controlled. Any diabetic with a blood glucose reading of over 250 or so....is damaging their body and may not even realize it...and anyone under about 80 or so will probably have delayed reaction times, maybe slurred speech, or possibly be incoherent. My stepfather got as low as 50 one night and I made my mother call paramedics...which transported him to Baylor because they couldn't get him to respond. The worst case is that they are alone when they go low and pass out.....and if not helped soon can die. My mother walked in one sunday morning after church when he didn't feel like going...and found him laying in the hallway unconscious. No idea how long he was that way. Careflite landed a helicopter right in front of the house and rushed him to Baylor...they thought he'd had a stroke.

[Chas_svo]

You would really not understand what your brain does unless you felt it. It sux ass. Nothing like living alone and waking up with your blood sugar in the 20s. You don't have enough brain function to know what to do. I'm glad I'm past those days. Diet and exercise changes suck. My pump has also helped a lot.

[akfodysvn]

I've seen people at or near 1000 BGl... fine looking and talking w/ me in conversation...

As for the only way people get low blood sugar is by taking too much insulin... that is not correct. They could have not eaten, exercised more than normal, have an infection, many various things that cause someone's sugar to be very low... to say its mostly inaccurate self medicating is not correct.

[03trubluGT]

I had to visit the principal of my son's school last year. He was taking a test and felt low and told the teacher.

She made him finish the test and would not let him check his BS level.

He hurried the test and checked, and he was at 50.

He had to go to the nurse's office to get his BS level up.

I went to the principal and told him that I was not happy with the teacher, he could have bottomed out and then she would have had an emergency on her hands. It's also hard to take a test when you can't focus on the task at hand while low.

[Unicorn Jeff]

Yeah that teacher is a fucking idiot for that bullshit stunt right their. Should of told the principle next time this fucking shit happens. I'm going to taze you and the teachers butthole.

[ram57ta]

I had to visit the principal of my son's school last year. He was taking a test and felt low and told the teacher.

She made him finish the test and would not let him check his BS level.

He hurried the test and checked, and he was at 50.

He had to go to the nurse's office to get his BS level up.

I went to the principal and told him that I was not happy with the teacher, he could have bottomed out and then she would have had an emergency on her hands. It's also hard to take a test when you can't focus on the task at hand while low.

That kind of shit should have made the evening news. When I was in the 3rd grade for reasons unknown I experienced what I can only describe as a one time thing because it has not happened again...I became disoriented, pale, sick to my stomach, and nearly blacked out in a classroom. The school nurse called paramedics, but the situation went away on its own after about 30 minutes from what I was told. My mother took me to a doctor and they told her I had hypoglycemia. Without taking medications...it has never happened again. I do from time to time get weak if I've gone a long time without eating something....but recent physicals have revealed nothing. I have no clue what happened. My point is...my teacher recognized a problem immediately and took steps right then to get help...and this was in the late 70's. Schools should be better prepared now to handle this then they were in the 70's. Seems like its the opposite.

[Chas_svo]

I've seen people at or near 1000 BGl... fine looking and talking w/ me in conversation...

As for the only way people get low blood sugar is by taking too much insulin... that is not correct. They could have not eaten, exercised more than normal, have an infection, many various things that cause someone's sugar to be very low... to say its mostly inaccurate self medicating is not correct.

As I said earlier, that means their bs shot up rather quickly. If it had been above 240 for very long, trust me, you feel it.

For type 2s, on medication, some of this is sorta right. For type 1s, I can do any of this without insulin, I could never get my bs to normal, much less low.

[SS Junk]

Medtronic(Minimed) Paradigm.

Took a tour of their Northridge, CA facility. Quite impressive.

I went to the principal and told him that I was not happy with the teacher, he could have bottomed out and then she would have had an emergency on her hands. It's also hard to take a test when you can't focus on the task at hand while low.

Extremely common. Our son was not allowed to carry his test kit while on school grounds because it was considered a weapon and a biohazard. Fucking retards. Even after doctor's orders they still refused. Thankfully the nurse was also Type 1 and our son learned to pay attention to his moods. Now he's in a different school and they'd rather he be responsible for it.

[Chas_svo]

Extremely common. Our son was not allowed to carry his test kit while on school grounds because it was considered a weapon and a biohazard. Fucking retards. Even after doctor's orders they still refused. Thankfully the nurse was also Type 1 and our son learned to pay attention to his moods. Now he's in a different school and they'd rather he be responsible for it.

That is messed up. Thankfully none of my kids have developed it, and I sure hope they do not. I was lucky in that I have adult onset, so I never had to deal with this as a kid or teen. It is a lot of responsibility.

[SS Junk]

I feel really bad about it. He developed it when he was 6 and it was then we found out just how needlephobic he was. He's over it now six years later. He's on a pump and does his set and sensor by himself. We are now teaching him how to make sure he understands how many carbs to enter into his pump before eating. By bad habit, we've told him to the point of him depending on it. He has a Scouts campout this weekend and it will be his first time being completely parent free for a few days. Hopefully it will be a good learning experience for him.

[Chas_svo]

That is a lot of responsibility for a 12 YO. I hate even checking my little ones, as I have had to do with the older two periodically. It seems like I'm checking them to see if they caught a curse that is going to be a PITA (at the very least) for the rest of their life. Good luck and let me know if you ever need anything. It is a challenge, for sure.