New gas coming...

[Damnittsteve]

It will be an option for stations to carry E15.

really? im glad but who in their right mind would buy it?

[FreightTrain]

really? im glad but who in their right mind would buy it?

Probably the same people that buy E85.

[Cooter]

I heart diesel

[LS1Goat]

i want to know how they came up with the arbitrary number of 2001 for model year break point.

[68RR]

WTF!!! They just had it in the news that the US is exporting more fuel than their importing...

[red95gts]

I just bought a 93 LX with an Aeromotive A1000 fuel system to include the stainless braided rubber lines. I get it home and put it in the garage and the next morning the fuel odor inside the garage is enough to water my eyes. I look for a leak and find nothing and figure out that the smell is coming from the lines themselves. I did some research and it's apparently common with "new" gas and people are switching to Teflon (PTFE) line$ and fitting$ to solve the odor problem. I figured I'll end up doing the same.

We have both E10 and "real" gas here. As I was topping the tank off with real gas last night, it dawned on me that maybe the guy I bought it from had used E10 to fill up before he sold it? Sure enough, that must have been what he did. I'm running roughly a 60/40 mix of real gas to E10 now and the difference in odor is like night and day. I was shocked that 10% ethanol would have that big of an effect. So, definitely avoid the E10-E15 if you have rubber lines...

[stevo]

Just a heads up...

starting this summer we will start seeing E15 gas at pumps in the area.
This is 85% gas and 15% alcohol.
It will be marked at the pump as E15 (as opposed to the E10 we have now)

The logic is that it will:
1: lower our dependence on foreign oil;
2: lower HC and CO tailpipe emissions (apparently they forgot that many manufacturers already have "Near Zero Emission" vehicles)


If you have a newer car, you can run it with minimal noticeable change in your engine... they say to expect about 10% less MPG, but about the same HP output.

If you have a 2001 and older car - DO NOT USE IT!
The increased alcohol is damaging to rubber parts in the fuel system.

Do NOT use it in your lawn mower, edger, boat motor.... etc... It will actually damage not only the fuel system (carb, pump, etc) but can actually damage the fuel tank itself.


And, just as a FWIW... they are claiming that the new gas will probably increase engine wear by around 15% over the life of the car since the alcohol will break down the residual oil and alcohol has no lubricating properties.

Aint our Govt great when they are "looking out for us"??

Do you have a link for this information? Because everything I have read about it says nothing about it replacing E10, in fact that it is illegal to use it in any of the following vehicles:

All motorcycles
All vehicles with heavy-duty engines, such as school buses, transit buses, and delivery trucks
All off-road vehicles, such as boats and snowmobiles
All engines in off-road equipment, such as lawnmowers and chain saws
All MY2000 and older cars, light-duty trucks, and medium-duty passenger vehicles (SUVs)

The label below will be required IF the government actually allows the sale of E15. Note the bottom of the label.



Stevo

[4bangen]

I hate right now, can I go back to then?
Back in high school; when I'd change a fuel pump or something and got gas on my hands, it smelled like gas until I could wash up. Now it smells terrible, gives me a headache and wont wash off.
Add in all this 10% 15% bull shit makes me want to move to Cuba where I can be free! (partial sarcasm)

[mikec]

I heart diesel

How can I get better mileage out of my 6.0? 12 sucks ass, and I truly do not drive hard at all. Pretty much Nevar mash it...


Have a pos SCT tuner on it with the egr delete. Need cold air and is exhaust really worth it?

[71chevellejohn]

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/fuels/additive/e15/

EPA site shows that some waivers were passed but I don't see anything mandating E15.

[stevo]

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/fuels/additive/e15/
EPA site shows that some waivers were passed but I don't see anything mandating E15.

Exactly.

granted two partial waivers that taken together allow but do not require the introduction into commerce of gasoline that contains greater than 10 volume percent (vol%) ethanol and up to 15 vol% ethanol (E15) for use in model year (MY) 2001 and newer light-duty motor vehicles,

Stevo

[Captain Crawfish]

there will be bi fuel trucks offered by gm and dodge.announcement was made today. they will be offered in the 4th qtr. Range of 650 miles

[78X]

there will be bi fuel trucks offered by gm and dodge.announcement was made today. they will be offered in the 4th qtr. Range of 650 miles

Link?

[crapstang]

How can I get better mileage out of my 6.0? 12 sucks ass, and I truly do not drive hard at all. Pretty much Nevar mash it...


Have a pos SCT tuner on it with the egr delete. Need cold air and is exhaust really worth it?

straight pipe for $50 is worth it, and get the CAI it helps a lot. IDK how you are getting that bad with a tuner and EGR delete...

[71chevellejohn]

Link?

http://www.gm.com/content/gmcom/home/article.content_pages_news_us_en_2012_mar_0305_bifuel_silverado.gm.html

2013 GMC and Chevrolet Bi-Fuel Pickups Unveiled

Mon, Mar 5 2012

DETROIT – Chevrolet and GMC today announced details of General Motors’ bi-fuel 2013 Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra 2500 HD extended cab pickup trucks. Fleet and retail consumers can place orders beginning this April.

The vehicles include a compressed natural gas (CNG) capable Vortec 6.0L V8 engine that seamlessly transitions between CNG and gasoline fuel systems. Combined, the trucks offer a range of more than 650 miles. The Silverado and Sierra will be available in standard and long box, with either two- or four-wheel drive.

“The bi-fuel Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra provide customers with choices in advanced propulsion technology, and because CNG is a clean-burning, domestically produced fuel, it has wide appeal, “said Ed Peper, general manager, GM Fleet and Commercial Operations. “The addition of a full-size bi-fuel pickup truck to GM’s fleet portfolio is another milestone in putting the customer first in everything we do – by offering great products, innovative solutions and a great customer experience.”

GM is the only manufacturer to offer a single-source option for its gaseous fuel vehicles. The bi-fuel trucks are built with a specially designed engine, the fuel system is installed by GM’s Tier One supplier and the completed vehicle is delivered directly to the customer. This process makes ordering the bi-fuel option as seamless and efficient as a standard vehicle.

“The bi-fuel truck provides businesses with added re-fueling flexibility and eases consumer range concerns that typically come with CNG, all while reducing emissions and controlling costs,” said Joyce Mattman, director, GM Commercial Product and Specialty Vehicles. “This turnkey ordering process, combined with the best warranty in the industry for a commercial product, makes our bi-fuel truck an attractive option, especially for commercial customers.”

The bi-fuel commercial trucks will be covered by GM’s three-year, 36,000-mile new vehicle limited warranty and five-year, 100,000-mile limited powertrain warranty and vehicle emissions warranty, meeting all Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and California Air Resources Board (CARB) emission certification requirements. It is the most extensive warranty offered by any manufacturer on commercial products.

The trucks are built in Fort Wayne, Ind., and then sent to the Tier One supplier for installation of the CNG bi-fuel delivery and storage system. The entire gaseous fuel system meets GM’s strict quality, durability, safety testing and is covered under the extensive warranty.