LEO guys, serious question

[Forever_frost]

Does the TSA have marked emergency vehicles?

If I got stopped and some TSA agent started pulling powers of arrest/search, I think I would request a supervisor and maybe call 911 to get a marked local LEO out with me.

There's no way in hell a TSA agent is going to start going through my belongings on a traffic stop when they have no authority to make a stop to begin with.

Oh, and the original article says "random inspectoins", it says nothing about traffic stops.

So you'd be okay with the TSA doing a 'random inspection' on your car?

[03trubluGT]

So you'd be okay with the TSA doing a 'random inspection' on your car?

Don't you read?

Does the TSA have marked emergency vehicles?

If I got stopped and some TSA agent started pulling powers of arrest/search, I think I would request a supervisor and maybe call 911 to get a marked local LEO out with me.

There's no way in hell a TSA agent is going to start going through my belongings on a traffic stop when they have no authority to make a stop to begin with.

Oh, and the original article says "random inspectoins", it says nothing about traffic stops.

[mikec]

Matt, I feel for ya bro. You have to be feeling like a black man right about now!


lol

Really do man...

[Forever_frost]

There is a difference.

A "checkpoint" or "chokepoint" is like a net.

A "traffic stop" singles out a vehicle.

I read what you said Matt, but then you point out the differences between being stopped and the TSA setting up a checkpoint. So you're against them doing a traffic stop but not a chokepoint? Or are you against both?

[MattB]

What if they threaten to arrest you if you don't let them search your car? :-)

[Forever_frost]

What if they threaten to arrest you if you don't let them search your car? :-)

Good question. What if they say "Well, you have nothing to worry about if you're not hiding anything. Why don't you pop your trunk for me?"

[03trubluGT]

I read what you said Matt, but then you point out the differences between being stopped and the TSA setting up a checkpoint. So you're against them doing a traffic stop but not a chokepoint? Or are you against both?

Both

[03trubluGT]

What if they threaten to arrest you if you don't let them search your car? :-)

Threaten all they want.

[Trip McNeely]

Fttsa.

[Forever_frost]

Both

Thank you for the clarification.

[MattB]

Threaten all they want.

And then they say turn around and put your hands behind your back....what do you do then?

[03trubluGT]

And then they say turn around and put your hands behind your back....what do you do then?

Show me their authority and powers of arrest.

[ThreeFingerPete]

And then they say turn around and put your hands behind your back....what do you do then?

Get back in my car and drive away, assuming they don't put their grubby dick beaters on me.

[MattB]

Show me their authority and powers of arrest.

They aren't going to, but they start to put cuffs on you, do you fight back?

[Forever_frost]

Show me their authority and powers of arrest.

They don't have the power to detain you at the airport either but they do. And if you don't comply, you're going to get tazed or incapacitated in some other manner and I'm willing to bet there's some charges they could come up with to pop you for refusing to comply.

I think it's currently $10k fine.

Just found out it's 11k. And I can see them stretching this.

Aguilar, the TSA's federal security director in San Diego, told reporters at a news conference outside Lindbergh Field Monday, that the agency has opened an investigation, which could result in a civil penalty because the man refused to complete the security scanning process.


"Once a passenger has entered into that screening process, he cannot opt out of it,'' Aguilar said. "We conduct our screenings under the auspices of the 4th amendment...constitution of the 4th amendment that allows us to do administrative screenings and searches."