LEO guys, serious question

[Roscoe]

So the statement that it was a lot of pomp and circumstance for little security is bitching? The fact is that I could have made a shank out of a travel sized mouthwash bottle and my insanely sharp tweezers using the non-propelled lighter in my carry-on. TSA is a joke.

No, I'm just saying that you're being a typical woman and blowing shit up bigger than it really is.

I've even set off their "explosive detector" (it was an EP14+ - make sure you ask what that is) once during an opt out and after calling in their "explosives expert" for further review along with "behavior analysts" and other senior smurfs, it was less hostile than your encounter.

If the shoe fits.....

[347Mike]

I have flown 110,000 miles in the past 2 years and haven't had one issue with TSA or that whole process.... You think TSA is bad, you should try being pulled aside by Abdul with an AK47 strapped around his shoulder and getting loud after you ask him to repeat himself because you can't understand what he is saying...

[LANTIRN]

When I see TSA agents, this automatically comes to mind:

[crapstang]

TSA is pure fail, I have brought knifes (accidentally of course, they were left in a jacket that I use on the ranch) on the last 3-4 trips I've gone on...I even got patted down and brought inside a little questioning room lol, but they didn't know it was there, nor did I.

[Snatch Napkin]

No, I'm just saying that you're being a typical woman and blowing shit up bigger than it really is.

I've even set off their "explosive detector" (it was an EP14+ - make sure you ask what that is) once during an opt out and after calling in their "explosives expert" for further review along with "behavior analysts" and other senior smurfs, it was less hostile than your encounter.

If the shoe fits.....

Women usually blow situations out of control. However, this time you're mistaken.

The difference in her pat down versus mine was completely polar opposite. I was less than 5 feet away the whole time and the TSA dude from Amarillo that got the dubious honor to examine my perfect specimen even took notice. He and I were discussing buckle bunnies and steaks while Jenn had the misfortune to have encountered a dominant female, much like herself, in possession of MUCH more authority than she could muster up thousands of miles away from home. Jenn's demeanor (read natural bitch face and metric shit tons of confidence) did not fare very well for this situation.

Point being, this 'search ability' is a joke. We, taxpayers, are paying delinquents to act as a barrier of safety, yet they aren't allowed to use common sense. The dude that I had used common sense against policy. Jenn's agent used policy to feel better about herself. The two dudes carrying our stuff looked like the graduated version of the 30 year old 'number 1' that I worked with at Sonic when I was 16. It was very laughable.

[idrivea4banger]

When I see TSA agents, this automatically comes to mind:

Close we are to an Empire rule.

[03trubluGT]

I have been unable to locate the exact statute that defines TSA and grants specific authority.

Does anyone have a link?

[Forever_frost]

I've been looking for it too Matt. So no way you can ask your supervisors?

[03trubluGT]

I've been looking for it too Matt. So no way you can ask your supervisors?

They are so far removed from police work they won't know.

[mikec]

That may actually prove to be really difficult to locate, as there probably are no statutes giving them LE powers... hehe

[Machx2]

That may actually prove to be really difficult to locate, as there probably are no statutes giving them LE powers... hehe

^^ This lol.

[Forever_frost]

They are so far removed from police work they won't know.

Damn. Well thanks for looking around no matter if you find the answer or not. Bonus question for 200:

Say a VIPR unit pulls over an off duty LEO that doesn't want to cooperate. Who has the authority to decide how the stop goes? The LEO or the TSA?

[03trubluGT]

Damn. Well thanks for looking around no matter if you find the answer or not. Bonus question for 200:

Say a VIPR unit pulls over an off duty LEO that doesn't want to cooperate. Who has the authority to decide how the stop goes? The LEO or the TSA?

Does the TSA have marked emergency vehicles?

If I got stopped and some TSA agent started pulling powers of arrest/search, I think I would request a supervisor and maybe call 911 to get a marked local LEO out with me.

There's no way in hell a TSA agent is going to start going through my belongings on a traffic stop when they have no authority to make a stop to begin with.

Oh, and the original article says "random inspectoins", it says nothing about traffic stops.

[racrguy]

Does the TSA have marked emergency vehicles?

If I got stopped and some TSA agent started pulling powers of arrest/search, I think I would request a supervisor and maybe call 911 to get a marked local LEO out with me.

There's no way in hell a TSA agent is going to start going through my belongings on a traffic stop when they have no authority to make a stop to begin with.

Oh, and the original article says "random inspectoins", it says nothing about traffic stops.

It also says they conducted checkpoints. If that's not a traffic stop, I don't know what is.

[03trubluGT]

It also says they conducted checkpoints. If that's not a traffic stop, I don't know what is.

There is a difference.

A "checkpoint" or "chokepoint" is like a net.

A "traffic stop" singles out a vehicle.