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    Just read this article, question at bottom of this article:

    A U.S. congresswoman was alarmed to learn that blue-shirted Transportation Security Administration agents had left the airports in her native state to begin inspecting cars and trucks, as well.

    “Many of my constituents discovered this firsthand this past fall, as those familiar blue uniforms and badges appeared on Tennessee highways,” writes Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., in a Forbes editorial titled “The TSA Is Coming to a Highway Near You.”

    “In October,” she continued, “Tennessee became the first state to conduct a statewide Department of Homeland Security Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response (VIPR) team operation [that] randomly inspected Tennessee truck drivers and cars.”

    TSA representative Nico Melendez confirmed to the Los Angeles Times that these VIPR teams have also branched out to conduct security checks at subways, trains and cruise ship ports.

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    Businessweek reports the total number of TSA agents more than tripled in the last decade, from 16,000 to 51,000, while the Times further reports that VIPR teams conducted more than 9,300 checkpoints and other ops in 2011 alone.

    Yet Blackburn is concerned not only with the increasing presence of the TSA, but also with the perceived power they have over Americans. For despite the fancy uniforms and tin badges, she asserts, the TSA’s transportation security officers, or TSOs, aren’t police and shouldn’t appear to be.

    Many TSOs, she points out, have had less training that it takes to become a security guard, let alone a law enforcement officer, and yet they stand equipped with uniforms and badges, asserting the authority to scan, X-ray and even pat down travelers in ever-more invasive ways.



    So, my question. If we are accosted by these thugs wearing a badge, what happens if we tell them to get bent? Do they have the rights you guys have? They aren't even LE yet they are performing searches and the like? I would honestly be inclined to just flipping them the deuce and rolling out. Do they have the power to arrest?

    Another example of their stupidity:

    A Hawaiian mom says she was humiliated when asked to prove her breast pump was real at an airport.

    The woman says she was flagged for additional screening at the Lihue Airport Wednesday because of her electric breast feeding pump.

    She claims agents told her she couldn't take the pump on the plane because the bottles in her carry-on were empty.

    "I asked him if there was a private place I could pump and he said no, you can go in the women's bathroom. I had to stand in front of the mirrors and the sinks and pump my breast in front of every tourist that walked into that bathroom. I was embarrassed and humiliated and then angry that I was treated this way.

    When the bottles were full, she was allowed back on the plane.


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    Blood is currently boiling.

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    • #3
      Mine's close. Just seems so... stupid. yet, here we are...

      Blows me away they made the woman pump her breasts. Just, really??? And we have to let them search us if they choose to? "Uh, sir, we're not sure those are really fruit of the loom underwear, you're going to have to prove they're real"...
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      • #4
        I completely disagree with this. Complete bullshit.
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        • #5
          I'd tell them to go fuck themselves and to go back to the airports and continue doing nothing of importance.

          Hell, I almost tell them that while they are in the airports anyways.

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          • #6
            Here's the key:
            "Many TSOs, she points out, have had less training that it takes to become a security guard, let alone a law enforcement officer, and yet they stand equipped with uniforms and badges, asserting the authority to scan, X-ray and even pat down travelers in ever-more invasive ways."

            They're not even LEOs. WTF?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by mikec View Post

              They're not even LEOs. WTF?
              HELL NO. They have no authority and are likened to mall security.

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              • #8
                It's for our own good. The Patriot Act, NDAA, the Department of Homeland Security, and the TSA are all great bi-partisan programs to come out of Washington.

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                • #9
                  I see shootouts with the TSA happening in the not too distant future when they start putting up illegal roadblocks and confiscating property.

                  Something like this may very well be what pushes a lot of people over the edge and force the government to get something done; I mean, as a nation we put up with A LOT of bullshit and disagree on A LOT of issues, but pretty much everyone in the nation HATES the TSA with a passion. Strangely enough, the TSA could prove to be the Uniting force this country needs. One can only hope, at least.
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                  • #10
                    Right, so LEO's question. If we get stopped by one of the VIPR groups, what do we do? Say 'fuck off' and drive off? Do they have the authority to detain you?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                      Right, so LEO's question. If we get stopped by one of the VIPR groups, what do we do? Say 'fuck off' and drive off? Do they have the authority to detain you?
                      I am very interested in this, and will have to do some research when I get back Tuesday.

                      From what I know off the top of my head, they have no powers on public roadways, but I'll have to see how they are commissioned, and what powers they are granted.

                      Since they are federal, there are some limitations that come to mind, but I don't want to spread any bullshit.

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                      • #12
                        I'll be keeping up with this thread.

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                        • #13
                          [QUOTE=03trubluGT;612092]I am very interested in this, and will have to do some research when I get back Tuesday.

                          From what I know off the top of my head, they have no powers on public roadways, but I'll have to see how they are commissioned, and what powers they are granted.

                          Since they are federal, there are some limitations that come to mind, but I Home Land Security agents. I guess If I refused the only thing that they could do would be deny me access to the ferry. However, going all the way back to High Island and up to Winnie to get back to Houston was not something that I wanted to do at 7PM on a Sunday.

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                          • #14
                            [QUOTE=J&T's 82;612103]
                            Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
                            I am very interested in this, and will have to do some research when I get back Tuesday.

                            From what I know off the top of my head, they have no powers on public roadways, but I'll have to see how they are commissioned, and what powers they are granted.

                            Since they are federal, there are some limitations that come to mind, but I Home Land Security agents. I guess If I refused the only thing that they could do would be deny me access to the ferry. However, going all the way back to High Island and up to Winnie to get back to Houston was not something that I wanted to do at 7PM on a Sunday.
                            What?
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                            • #15
                              I can't wait to hear, thanks for checking Matt. I know where I stand with cops and that I can deny them searches, however TSA......
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