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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esequiel_Hern%C3%A1ndez_Jr

Good read! But that kid was a American

[PandaBear]

either way he got away with it

[Gtracer]

I am saying just the opposite, a life is a life IMO, but the legal system is in place for American citizens, on American soil. The officer should be reprimanded, or even brought up on charges for his actions, but there is no legal recourse for the family, as they aren't american citizens.

Understood.

The only charge he could face would be unlawful discharge or something to the effect. None the less, anything short of the death penalty for this man will only infuriate everyone connected with the case further more than they already are...

[CexMashean]

I can't find a part of this story that i don't like.

[Big A]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esequiel_Hern%C3%A1ndez_Jr

I'm not sure where you are going with this link, but it backs up my claim that on duty officers can be, and are exhonerated. The kid also shot a rifle at the agents, which is a far cry from throwing rocks, not at all a similar case.

[Baron Von Crowder]

I don't know why the US border patrol is expected to not use deadly force, try sneaking into mexico and runninng into their armed foces guarding the Mexican borders, and see what happens if you start throwing rocks at them.

I'd wager the same or worse would happen in most countries around the world. Shit happens, stay the fuck away from dangerous places like National borders.

[Gtracer]

I'm not sure where you are going with this link, but it backs up my claim that on duty officers can be, and are exhonerated. The kid also shot a rifle at the agents, which is a far cry from throwing rocks, not at all a similar case.

You know I keep hearing the "he was only throwing rocks"

Well I have to say that in the Middle East, this is a form of execution and while it may seem primitive, I guarantee that getting hit in the head by a golf ball sized rock can have consequences...I do not see a rock being any different than a bullet other than it is less accurate and requires more energy...

[TeeShock]

I bet he had a blast

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[DON SVO]

I don't agree with shooting and killing a kid for throwing a rock at the agent, especially a smaller rock from that distance (10+ yards) since it would be hard to cause serious bodily injury. However, we have entirely too many instances of drug runners and cartel thugs killing people along the borders (and quite ruthlessly), I would not want to be there trying to stop some teenagers from jumping the border and get killed by mob mentality. You don't know if there wasn't a dozen more little border-jumping brats on the Mexican side who were waiting to see if the coast was clear, or if it was the Cartel doing a little 'test' of the security at that point...I can understand why the Agent was jumpy, it seems like an intensely stressful position to have been in. Thats such a messed up situation. I'm glad the Constitution was upheld, though! I would be OK with that Agent being investigated for manslaughter charges.

Regarding the use of force in this instance, I guess my question would be more along the lines of, "how much force is warranted"? If the kid was 5 feet away from the Agent and leveling a brick at his head, I'm A-O-K with plugging him. This didn't seem to be such a viable threat though.

[jluv]

I do not see a rock being any different than a bullet other than it is less accurate and requires more energy...

LMAO... Really?

[91CoupeMike]

You know I keep hearing the "he was only throwing rocks"

Well I have to say that in the Middle East, this is a form of execution and while it may seem primitive, I guarantee that getting hit in the head by a golf ball sized rock can have consequences...I do not see a rock being any different than a bullet other than it is less accurate and requires more energy...

So when kids throw rocks they are trying to perform executions?

Death by rock throwing had nothing to do with this case and you know it, so don't come back to that horse shit.

The little bastard was raising hell and deserved some punishment, but once he crossed the border, I think the officer should had just let it be, shooting unarmed people from across the border when they are fleeing seems kind of chicken shit, no matter how you look at it. Once he crossed the border then he wasn't an issue or threat anymore, so why the force?

Officers cried out for non lethal weapons to use in non lethal situations, what happen in this case? Throwing rocks doesn't seem like a deadly action, it seems like shit ass kids being shit ass kids.

I guess you'd find it okay if a cop killed some kids for shooting his cruiser with a paintball gun too?

[Big A]

You know I keep hearing the "he was only throwing rocks"

Well I have to say that in the Middle East, this is a form of execution and while it may seem primitive, I guarantee that getting hit in the head by a golf ball sized rock can have consequences...I do not see a rock being any different than a bullet other than it is less accurate and requires more energy...

Being stoned to death requires multiple parties, throwing multiple rocks each, at point-blank range. The only threat that this kid posed was a bruise or two. If the agent had time to aim, he had time to move out of the way.

Do you honestly believe that a rock is no different than a bullet? Even a slingshot isn't deadly at that range, save for a freak shot to the head that knocks him out and he falls, busting his head open on concrete.

Too bad he's dead, that kidls deadly arm would give him a hell of a career in the MLB.

[majorownage]

Fuck that officer. He should rot in hell.

[SS Junk]

I don't agree with shooting and killing a kid for throwing a rock at the agent, especially a smaller rock from that distance (10+ yards) since it would be hard to cause serious bodily injury.

Right. Because a 120lb crackhead merely posturing with a "five foot" pipe bender is far far different than rocks that have actually been thrown...

[Gtracer]

So when kids throw rocks they are trying to perform executions?

Death by rock throwing had nothing to do with this case and you know it, so don't come back to that horse shit.

The little bastard was raising hell and deserved some punishment, but once he crossed the border, I think the officer should had just let it be, shooting unarmed people from across the border when they are fleeing seems kind of chicken shit, no matter how you look at it. Once he crossed the border then he wasn't an issue or threat anymore, so why the force?

Officers cried out for non lethal weapons to use in non lethal situations, what happen in this case? Throwing rocks doesn't seem like a deadly action, it seems like shit ass kids being shit ass kids.

I guess you'd find it okay if a cop killed some kids for shooting his cruiser with a paintball gun too?

Why the hell not, no one else in this country seems to give a fuck about anyone else’s opinion or feelings so why should I care about theirs. I may have had reservations about shooting a kid if I were in the agents shoes but I sure as hell am not going to condemn him for doing something about it...not my f-in problem guy...If it were me, I would say shoot everyone that attempts to cross any of our boarders without Auth. ; as far as we know they are a foreign threat...

So when kids throw rocks they are trying to perform executions?

Don’t put words in my post that I did not put there. I likened their actions to the actions of others around the world. Whether it is a kid throwing a rock or a mass mob, does not make the instrument any different.

The argument of a kid using a gun is less deadly than an adult is the same as the two of you saying a kid throwing a rock is different than a mob...you throw enough or a few that are big enough, you’re going to inflict harm at which point, if I was armed; I would eliminate the threat...