They finally got it right

[GhostTX]

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Güereca's parents initially filed a civil lawsuit against Mesa and the U.S. government last year, but Briones dismissed that suit, ruling there are no statutes that would apply in suing the U.S. government since Güereca was shot on the Mexican side of the border.

The second lawsuit was filed immediately after Briones dismissed the first suit. In the second suit, Güereca's parents alleged Mesa violated the boy's constitutional protections against deadly and excessive force. However, Briones ruled Güereca isn't covered by those protections because he was a Mexican citizen and was in Mexico when the shooting took place.

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AWESOME! Finally a judge that has the balls to do the right thing.

[SS Junk]

He's a Mexican citizen, he has no constitutional rights.

The twist to that is there are sleazeball attorneys lined up around the block and down the street who will continue to represent using this angle as well as judges willing to entertain the case until one jury finally caves..

[Gtracer]

i dont know where the video is but i got to watch it and what happens is they boys run across ditch, migra shows up, snags one and the rest run back to the mexican side, you can clearly see it on the video. migra decides to pull out his gun and shoot said boy while he is on the mexican side.


the migras defense is that he was throwing rocks at him, which you can not see on video. no indication of that going on video but migra still shot him

Don’t play on or near a boarder that is a violent at this one and you won’t get killed...

Those agents are already on edge dealing with the Coyotes and the Cartels, some punk kid comes up, in a place where they should not be, the parents obviously not taking care of this behavior; well, this is the result.

I am sad a child was killed but I have to give the man props, I am glad he did not hesitate to shoot the child, this means he will not hesitate if someone else attempts to pass through means other than naturalization


I mean, you dont see idiots in S. Korea running along the mine field that seperates N form S...same shit

[SEB]

Im all for closing our borders. But not for shooting kids

[Big A]

The twist to that is there are sleazeball attorneys lined up around the block and down the street who will continue to represent using this angle as well as judges willing to entertain the case until one jury finally caves..

Until one judge caves. He's not an American citizen, he doesn't have the right to trial by Jury. None of them would be his peers anyway, as they would all be American.

Even if the kid was throwing rocks, that doesn't justify deadly force, American or not.

[SS Junk]

Juuuuuuuust you wait!

[Gtracer]

Had the parents been there, perhaps the outcome could have been avoided...

[CexMashean]

Even if the kid was throwing rocks, that doesn't justify deadly force, American or not.

Throwing rocks at someone that has a gun? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes?

[Big A]

Throwing rocks at someone that has a gun? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes?

That doesn't make it justifiable, had they been American kids vandalizing or whatever here in the states, the Officer would be in a shit load of trouble.

Substitute your average joe for the officer, and the shooter would be in prison.

[CexMashean]

That doesn't make it justifiable.

It makes it common sense, and more people should use it.

[Gtracer]

That doesn't make it justifiable, had they been American kids vandalizing or whatever here in the states, the Officer would be in a shit load of trouble.

Substitute your average joe for the officer, and the shooter would be in prison.

So you feel like the American people are saying that Mexican citizens are of lower value? This is ignorant...

If a Mexican citizen shot across the border, wait, that already happens. When a Mexican citizen shoots a U.S. citizen from across the boarder what do you think we should do? Sue them in a Mexican court? Shoot back? Invade with full fledged army using act of aggression as a reason?

Nope, $hit happens just like in this case, may be wrong but shit happens, move along. This is not about race, not about one being better than the other.

This is about stupid parents not paying attention to what their child is doing during the day. Hence the outcome of this situation.

[Gtracer]

That doesn't make it justifiable, had they been American kids vandalizing or whatever here in the states, the Officer would be in a shit load of trouble.

Substitute your average joe for the officer, and the shooter would be in prison.

Officers are average joe's...they have kids too you know, families.

[Big A]

So you feel like the American people are saying that Mexican citizens are of lower value? This is ignorant...

If a Mexican citizen shot across the border, wait, that already happens. When a Mexican citizen shoots a U.S. citizen from across the boarder what do you think we should do? Sue them in a Mexican court? Shoot back? Invade with full fledged army using act of aggression as a reason?

Nope, $hit happens just like in this case, may be wrong but shit happens, move along. This is not about race, not about one being better than the other.

This is about stupid parents not paying attention to what their child is doing during the day. Hence the outcome of this situation.

I am saying just the opposite, a life is a life IMO, but the legal system is in place for American citizens, on American soil. The officer should be reprimanded, or even brought up on charges for his actions, but there is no legal recourse for the family, as they aren't american citizens.

Officers are average joe's...they have kids too you know, families.

Yes, but history has shown that the legal system views actions while on duty a little differently than the actions of private citizens. It's not a get-out-of-jail-free card, but an on duty officer is a lot more likely to be justified in certain situations, get a lesser punishment if at fault, or be completely exhonerated in cases where a non-officer would be doing time.

[SEB]

The officer should be reprimanded, or even brought up on charges for his actions, but there is no legal recourse for the family, as they aren't american citizens.

This!

[PandaBear]

Yes, but history has shown that the legal system views actions while on duty a little differently than the actions of private citizens. It's not a get-out-of-jail-free card, but an on duty officer is a lot more likely to be justified in certain situations, get a lesser punishment if at fault, or be completely exhonerated in cases where a non-officer would be doing time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esequiel_Hern%C3%A1ndez_Jr