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Originally posted by mustang_revivalWhen he brought it up, the friend who is on says he "has it under control" and doesn't want to talk about it, and will argue his point or just ignore that part of the convo.
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Originally posted by mustang_revivalYes.
I'm assuming needle.
I know. I am. This problem is bigger than me and I'm gonna bring in some of his family that can be trusted.
There is no amount of frothy emotional appeal that will somehow flip a switch in his brain, and make him decide to turn the corner. He is going to have to suffer enough internal emotional and physical torment to make him want to stop, and only then will others be able to help him help himself. In some cases completely cutting them out of your life contributes to them hitting that bottom, and on other cases they chase it to the death. Addicts are as selfish and self-centered as they come, he's not going to do anything for anyone but him until he's well clear of his last high.
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I've seen firsthand what heroin addiction does to a person. I've mentioned my brother's addiction on here before and it made him a complete stranger. He started off doing monkey juice in his first stint at a state rehab. When he came out of there he moved on to the needle. That shit will change a person instantly. There were days where he would be all mellowed out and "normal". Then there were the days where he would begin his cravings, those wore the worst and turned him into someone else. His gf, baby momma, at the time had found his stash and hid it from him. He was trying to quit but the cravings got the better of him. I was living with them at the time when I heard him drag her into their bedroom and begin to beat down on here. I rushed in there and pushed his ass into the wall and got in front of her. He just looked at me and told me "what the fuck do you want me to do? Huh? What the fuck do you want me to do?". I slept with a blade because I knew he was out of control. Luckily he got locked up on a warrant a few weeks later and did more time.
Before all of that he had seeked out help to stop. He went to some place in Irving to get on methadone and they turned him away. They told him that he wasn't "addicted" enough to receive their treatment. To this day I know for a fact my brother wouldn't have spiraled down further in his heroin addiction if those motherfuckers hadn't turned him away. This last bout before he got locked up for 5 years he was snorting it from capsules. He admitted to me when he got out that he had done it a few times before he got into his car accident. He had stopped 3 days before because he said the temptation was too much for him here in irving and was planning on moving out of state to get away from it all. He's been dealing with this for well over 13+ years, as have us. It's something I wouldn't wish even on my worst enemy.
I hope your friend can seek help before it's too late. Like it's been said, he's the only one that can decide to stop on his own. Hopefully it doesn't get to the point where it becomes violent and that violence is aimed at his wife and kids. Planning an intervention might only further his addiction and make the end result permanent. I just hope it doesn't end that way for your friend.Originally posted by talismanI wonder if there will be a new character that specializes in bjj and passive agressive comebacks?Originally posted by AdamLXIf there was, I wouldn't pick it because it would probably just keep leaving the game and then coming back like nothing happened.Originally posted by BroncojohnnyBecause fuck you, that's whyOriginally posted by 80coupenice dick, Idrivea4bangerOriginally posted by Rick Modena......and idrivea4banger is a real person.Originally posted by JesterMan ive always wanted to smoke a bowl with you. Just seem like a cool cat.
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Originally posted by Big A View PostThere is no amount of frothy emotional appeal that will somehow flip a switch in his brain, and make him decide to turn the corner. He is going to have to suffer enough internal emotional and physical torment to make him want to stop, and only then will others be able to help him help himself. In some cases completely cutting them out of your life contributes to them hitting that bottom, and on other cases they chase it to the death. Addicts are as selfish and self-centered as they come, he's not going to do anything for anyone but him until he's well clear of his last high.
Right on..... when we hit bottom we can come up! And the good new is.... Addiction can be overcome, we are both living proof....
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I got hooked on pain meds after my accident. I was taking 3-4 different pills every 2-3 hours. My friends would come over I had this little lock box I kept all my pills in and they said I would pick it up every 5 ninutes and set it back down. It felt like it was never enough to kill the pain. Finally I just barricaded myself in a bedroom without my pills and didn't come out for two weeks. It was the worst time in my life. To this day I won't take anything in pill form not even tylenol. Just some mental thing that takes me back to a dark time in my life and as retarded as it may sound, I dont want the next pill I take to put me back there.
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I have three relatives that have died while on Heroin. It sucks to see them go through what they did and leave us so young. I don;t know what causes it, but it can affect anyone of any demographic and race. The people that are telling you that there is nothing you can do are correct, it is a sad way to go...Originally posted by SilverbackLook all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.
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good luck to your friend. I was once addicted to pills at the club the first time I did it the shit was so fun. It was like I was a different person unfortunately the next day you got depressed etc and of course you couldn't wait to feel that way again. I got off of it but I remember being sick. Keep your friend away from the source although it will probably be like going to war. A close family member is probably gonna have to do it and he will have to be watched like a hawk.
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Anybody have any suggestions on how to kick this Skoal habit of mine? On a bad week I can easily go through 3 cans. It's a nasty and moderately expensive habit. $60+ a month that could be better spent. Gum doesn't help much and patches are mildly effective. I'm a slave to nicotine and it's embarrassing, to be quite honest.
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Originally posted by SS Junk View PostYou have to find a reason that motivates you to stop. Mine was i did not want my kids to see me smoke, so after 20 years i quit and haven't gone back.
I quit smoking 5 years ago, I did it for other reasons though.. I wanted an ar-15 and quitting smoking let me build one over 3 months.. Then I just never started again.. Smoked for 15 years full time 1.5 pack a day of Marlboro reds"PSH!!!"
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Originally posted by SS Junk View PostYou have to find a reason that motivates you to stop. Mine was i did not want my kids to see me smoke, so after 20 years i quit and haven't gone back.
Problem was I'd not smoke much during the week (4-8 a day), but from say 7-12 on a night of some beers I'd do a whole pack.
Dipping/smoking/habits are the same concept - have to reduce whatever invokes the cravings. i.e. I have a lot less drinking nights, cause when I do the urge to smoke is pretty rough - which I suspect will go away over time. Next challenge is fishing without some smokes.Originally posted by MR EDDU defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.
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Originally posted by LS1Goat View PostAnybody have any suggestions on how to kick this Skoal habit of mine? On a bad week I can easily go through 3 cans. It's a nasty and moderately expensive habit. $60+ a month that could be better spent. Gum doesn't help much and patches are mildly effective. I'm a slave to nicotine and it's embarrassing, to be quite honest.
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I quit smoking by seeing a hypnotist. I was very, very skeptical going in. After the first session I had cut down, but was still smoking. I don't believe I actually got hypnotized the first session, due to me being so skeptical. But I have only had half a cigarette since the second session. I have had 3 cigars since, but only when I'm drinking. since you don't inhale cigars, I feel this is less destructive. I'm also drinking less since I've quit, as smoking when I drink has always been a downfall for me the previous times I've tried to quit. I don't know the exact date I quit, but it's been over a month. I'd highly recommend the hypnotist route. I tried every other method and failed.Originally posted by BradMBut, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.Originally posted by LeahIn other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.
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