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    Marine faces fifteen years behind bars for unknowingly violating gun law | 'I’ve been a law-abiding citizen my entire life, and for something like this to come down, it rips me apart'


    Marine faces 15 years behind bars for unknowingly violating gun law

    Ryan Jerome was enjoying his first trip to New York City on business when the former Marine Corps gunner walked up to a security officer at the Empire State Building and asked where he should check his gun.

    That was when Jerome’s nightmare began. The security officer called police and Jerome spent the next two days in jail.

    The 28-year-old with no criminal history now faces a mandatory minimum sentence of three and a half years in prison. If convicted, his sentence could be as high as fifteen years.

    Jerome has a valid concealed carry permit in Indiana and visited New York believing that it was legal to bring his firearm. He was traveling with $15,000 worth of jewelry that he planned to sell.

    The online gun-law information Jerome read was inaccurate, however, and his late September arrest initiated what may become a protracted criminal saga. He hasn’t yet been indicted by a grand jury, but there may be little legal wiggle-room if he is.

    “If he does get indicted, and they want to give him something less, then the legal minimum would be two years,” noted Mark Bederow, Jerome’s attorney. “They couldn’t even offer less if they wanted to.” (RELATED: The Daily Caller’s Guns and Gear section)

    Jerome isn’t the first out-of-state visitor to volunteer that they had a gun, only to be put through the wringer. In December, Tennessee nurse Meredith Graves noticed a “no guns” sign at the World Trade Center site and asked where she could leave her weapon, only to face similar charges.

    Also in December, Tea Party Patriots co-founder Mark Meckler was arrested after attempting to check a pistol — for which he has a California concealed carry permit — at a New York airport.

    The law in New York has the potential to wreak havoc on the lives of unwitting and otherwise law-abiding visitors, Bederow explained to The Daily Caller.

    “The law itself is clear,” he said, “if you knowingly possess a loaded firearm in New York, then you are technically guilty of a serious crime. The fact that somebody in another state has a valid concealed carry permit is, legally speaking, irrelevant in New York.”

    But the recent spate of tourist arrests wasn’t what was intended when the law was passed, said Bederow. “Subjecting the toughest gun laws in the country — here in New York — to subject these people to them is just not a good use of discretion.”

    “The law is not equipped to deal with these situations, and they happen all the time,” he added. “Here are people trying to be responsible.”

    There is a significant degree of uncertainty regarding how the case will proceed. Right now, Bederow said he’s hoping that the district attorney will use discretion and recognize that his client “is not a criminal.”

    “I’ve been a law-abiding citizen my entire life, and for something like this to come down, it rips me apart,” Jerome told the New York Post. “It’s like taking a good dog and scolding him for something he didn’t do.”
    "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

  • #2
    Ignorance of the law is no excuse!

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    • #3
      we are looking for a few good men, unfortunately, you aint it.
      pinto gt with wood trim

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      • #4
        Originally posted by talisman View Post
        Ignorance of the law is no excuse!
        Yeah, just because the laws are ignorant doesn't mean they can be ignored.
        Originally posted by Broncojohnny
        HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
          Yeah, just because the laws are ignorant doesn't mean they can be ignored.

          I'm just being a dick, obviously. That's retarded.

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          • #6
            I understand he was ignorant in not knowing the law. If a person willingly gives up their gun under the context they had no idea of the law, I don't see how they can really be prosecuted. They are willingly giving up the weapon and admitting they didn't know the law. It is one thing for security to discover the gun, it is another for an individual to alert security they have a gun.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by talisman View Post
              I'm just being a dick, obviously. That's retarded.
              I'm just trying to make witty word play on "ignorance of the law."
              Originally posted by Broncojohnny
              HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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              • #8
                Aren't CHL carriers taught in class to check the carry status of places you visit? I've seen plenty of people mention other state's carry laws when they were going to/coming from, etc.


                This sucks, given that the law is unconstitutional to begin with, but they guy should have checked prior to his visit. Hopefully the DA won't prosecute.
                Originally posted by BradM
                But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
                Originally posted by Leah
                In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bcoop View Post
                  Aren't CHL carriers taught in class to check the carry status of places you visit? I've seen plenty of people mention other state's carry laws when they were going to/coming from, etc.


                  This sucks, given that the law is unconstitutional to begin with, but they guy should have checked prior to his visit. Hopefully the DA won't prosecute.
                  Sounds like he did, and he got inaccurate information.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
                    Aren't CHL carriers taught in class to check the carry status of places you visit? I've seen plenty of people mention other state's carry laws when they were going to/coming from, etc.


                    This sucks, given that the law is unconstitutional to begin with, but they guy should have checked prior to his visit. Hopefully the DA won't prosecute.
                    He erroneously believed New York was a reciprocity state. Big mistake.
                    "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
                      Sounds like he did, and he got inaccurate information.

                      If he "read it on the internet", then that's his own problem, unless he read it on an official NY Govt website.
                      Originally posted by BradM
                      But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
                      Originally posted by Leah
                      In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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                      • #12
                        sucks to be him...


                        but wtf does him being a marine have anything at all to do with the story? they put it in the title like he was in uniform or some shit. i'm not against the military or anything, hell i joined right after high school, i just see no reason to put that in the title

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bcoop View Post
                          If he "read it on the internet", then that's his own problem, unless he read it on an official NY Govt website.
                          The unfortunate part is reading gun law from the actual law itself is very confusing. You have to read, and re-read 100+ pages of legislation (if you can even comprehend it) and then understand the syntax and conflicts as a whole. Honestly, the average person is going to struggle with doing that and could very realistically make a mistake. The best way to understand it is to read several peoples takes on the law, and most important case law regarding it.

                          In this situation, I can only presume he was relatively novice about gun laws as a whole. Anyone moderately knowledgeable about state gun laws knows New York = no pistols.
                          "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                          "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bcoop View Post
                            If he "read it on the internet", then that's his own problem, unless he read it on an official NY Govt website.
                            Yup, the Marines didn't teach him to perform due diligence.

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                            • #15
                              so you're saying stay the fuck out of New York? done
                              http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/...iversal-truth/

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